Edison, thank you for raising the concern about the BVT/CI. Somebody
mentioned earlier that we should separate git workflow implementation from
the CI effort, but I do think we have to do in in conjunction. Otherwise
what is the point in introducing staging/develop branch? If there is no
daily automation run verifying all the code merged from hotFixes/feature
branches (and possibly reverting wrong checkins), we can as well merge the
code directly to master.

-Alena.

On 8/6/14, 2:30 PM, "Edison Su" <edison...@citrix.com> wrote:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:alena.prokharc...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:59 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] git workflow
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/6/14, 12:52 PM, "Erik Weber" <terbol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Alena Prokharchyk <
>> >alena.prokharc...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Agree with you, Rohit. The changes to the git model we use, are
>> >>needed  indeed. But we should address only the problems that CS faces,
>> >>and the  main problem - quality control. The proposal should be
>> >>limited just to the  changes that are really needed for the CS, and
>> >>that will work with the  current CS model (minor maintenance releases
>> >>support is a part of it)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Theoretically you don't really have to change anything other than
>> >merging instead of cherry picking.
>> >That is the main issue from a release perspective.
>> >
>> >But I still think there are good reasons to do so;
>> >
>> >1) using a well known way of handling code/releases instantly tells new
>> >contributors / committers how we work. add to the fact that there
>> >exists tools to help doing this correctly is a bonus.
>> >2) having a known stable (atleast in theory) release as master is good
>> >practice. although not many users will be running from git, i still
>> >consider it to be good practice.
>> >3) there is a huge belief in this thread/discussion that as long as
>> >something passes CI / BVT it is considered stable. The fact is that it
>> >is not. Take the recent 4.4 release as a good example, where a new
>> >install was not working at all at the point of release. Now, this is
>> >more a CI / test coverage issue than git workflow issue, but i find it
>> >weird to use as an argument for not improving the workflow.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Erik
>> 
>> I¹m not arguing against keeping master release stable; I advocate for
>>it.
>
>+1, we need to take action to make sure master is stable. Frankly
>speaking, 
>I don't want to fix the regression on the master, I assume nobody want to
>do that.
>Here is the list of regression issues(not introduced by myself) I fixed
>on master after 4.4:
>
>CLOUDSTACK-7123
>CLOUDSTACK-7110
>CLOUDSTACK-7166
>CLOUDSTACK-7164
>Most of this issues will be caught even by a simulator BVT. I want to
>make it clear, that,
>If we don't take action to reduce/eliminate the regression as much as
>possible in the future, I will not fix any of this regression issues.
>I remember there is discussion about setting up a staging branch, run BVT
>against it for each commit, what's the conclusion if any? Why so
>difficult to make it happen? Is there anything I can help to make it
>happen?
>
>> But we can¹t adopt git workflow way of keeping master branch to be a
>> reflection of the latest release branch. It will not work with our way
>>of
>> handling maintenance releases for multiple versions of CS - see another
>> thread.
>
>
>+1, I'll -1 on any of proposal, if it doesn't solve problem most of us
>are concerning about.
>
>> 
>> Instead, master branch should reflect the latest code that passed the
>>CI test
>> (the code merged from *develop after CI passes). The release branches
>> should be cut from stable master branch - it will ensure that we won¹t
>>face
>> last minute blockers as for 4.4, because master IS a stable branch.
>> And yes, we should do merges instead of cherry picking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >
>

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