Hi Tim,

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > Thanks for replying, let me clean up everything and re-setup my test
> infra
> > after my $dayjob hours and get back to you. The test cases in the design
> > doc does not discuss Xen Project so I thought I should ask if ACS works
> > with Xen Project 4.x.
> >
>
> The longer term objective is to provide support for XenProject without
> XAPI, most notably with libvirt.  Effectively XenServer implies XAPI and
> XenProject would imply libvirt as the tooling.
>

Alright, that means we need to start working on a Xen Project hypervisor
plugin that would (re)use libvirt (or libxl) tooling, probably re-use/fix
the KVM agent too.


> >
> > The Xen/XenProject/XenServer/XAPI/XCP is confusing [1]. From what I
> > understand, XCP was some sort of an opensource version of XenServer, but
> > since XenServer distribution (which consists of Xen, XenCenter, XAPI,
> Linux
> > etc.) is opensource, XCP has been discontinued since 1.6 release?
> >
>
> XCP was rolled into XenServer as of XenServer 6.2 which means 1.6 was the
> last version of XCP.  I tried to sum it up in this blog:
>
> http://open.citrix.com/blog/342-knowing-what-you-ve-got-avoiding-the-xen-vs-xenserver-confusion.html


Thanks, this helps to understand what went in this transition.

>
> > Now, on many Linux distro XAPI is still available as 'xcp-xapi' such as
> in
> > Debian/Ubuntu, so what package(s) do you suggest one needs to install and
> > configure so I can get DevCloud [2] work again? DevCloud is a VM that
> runs
> > Xen (Xen Project) inside it and can be used as a virtual host to
> > test/develop ACS against it.
> >
> >
> I see no reason why any other XAPI implementation wouldn't work, but it's
> entirely possible the version of xcp-xapi you have has issues with
> XenProject 4.4 due to normal versioning type issues.  There also was a
> different "productization" attempt called xenserver-core, but that looks to
> have died on the vine.  That being said, I could easily have broken
> something.  If I've broken something, I probably won't be able to test
> until next week due to travels.  The question of xapi inclusion in distros
> is one I'd need to check on.
>

Yes, that would be great. I'll attempt testing it again with fresh setup in
upcoming weekends.

Regards.


>
>
>
> > [1] http://www.xenproject.org/developers/teams/xapi.html
> > [2] http://bhaisaab.org/logs/devcloud
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Tim Mackey <tmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Rohit,
> > >
> > > We've only supported xapi so far, so I'm curious if you had Xen Project
> > 4.4
> > > working before with xapi and if that is now broken. Nothing I did
> should
> > > have impacted that, but it wasn't in my test suite so anything is
> > possible
> > > On Jun 17, 2014 11:21 AM, "Rohit Yadav" <bhais...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Xen Project (previously xen.org xenserver) is widely accessible in
> > > several
> > > > Linux distributions such as Arch, Fedora etc. Therefore, people may
> > want
> > > to
> > > > use it instead of XenServer (6.2 or later). The ACS 4.5 design doc
> [1]
> > > > explains about XenServer and how it should be tested etc. but what
> > about
> > > > using Xen Project?
> > > >
> > > > Since the recent Xen plugin refactoring as xenserver plugin [1], I'm
> > > unable
> > > > to get ACS to work with Xen Project 4.4 (on a real host and on a new
> > > custom
> > > > DevCloud). Using the XenServer ACS plugin, it identifies a Xen
> Project
> > > host
> > > > as some version of Xen but then fails. Has anyone tried this with ACS
> > > > 4.4/master? Are we going to test/support Xen Project (4.x) soon? If
> so,
> > > can
> > > > people involved share their plan/vision/roadmap on it?
> > > >
> > > > Lastly, as the design doc [1] suggested XCP's development has
> stopped,
> > > are
> > > > we going to favour using XAPI [1] now or libVirt [2] or something
> else?
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Convert+Xen+usage+to+XenServer
> > > >
> > > > [2] http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2014/03/10/xen-4-4-released
> > > >
> > > > Regards.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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