Tuna

Thanks for the feedback, conceptually, i was not trying to address the issue of sysvms not running on LXC.

Here is the use case as i see it.

Assume you roll out a farm of 10 KVM servers and your density with KVM is 200 virtual machines. Most of these VMs dont require independent kernel and additional layers of virtualization abstraction. As the result, you can place 400 LXC machines and 20 fully virtualized Linux or even Windows Servers. If you do chargeback, you can offer the LXC machines for much lower price point since we can place more LXC containers.

Your density becomes much greater with LXC and yet you still cover the corner case when end-user needs KVM instance.

Pierre-Luc

If I will get to try this scenario - i may have to alter the KVM/LXC agent somewhat to make it work with CloudStack, i will let you know. Alternative solution would be to run separate LXC and KVM clusters, which is also a possibility - but usage and distribution will be uneven.

Regards
ilya

The concept of combining both technologies under one hypervisor
On 6/6/14, 8:42 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion wrote:
ilya,

Let us know how it goes your hybrid of LXC+KVM. I'm interested to know how
it's going,  I might try that too on the side.




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On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Nguyen Anh Tu <t...@apache.org> wrote:

That should be a good idea, Ilya. At that moment, i'm working on Docker
support. When it's done, we can run only Docker hosts, no need to use KVM
for hosting system vms.

Cheers,
--Tuna

Sent from my GT-N7000
On Jun 5, 2014 7:58 AM, "ilya musayev" <ilya.mailing.li...@gmail.com>
wrote:

We are considering running KVM and LXC on the same host and hopefully
control both through cloudstack.

I know there are agents involved for each component, i dont know if we
can
have a hybrid of LXC+KVM.

The use case is simple, we would like the end user to pick LXC/Docker for
performance, or KVM instance if he really needed all bells and whistles
of
dedicated kernel in fully virtualized environment.

Is anyone aware why we should not mix 2 workloads on the same host? Is it
possible at this point in time to mix LXC, KVM and CloudStack, i assume
the
answer is no, but perhaps there is a hack i can try.

Thanks
ilya


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