> @Chip and @Hugo
>
>> Correct, and my statement stands.  I'm -1 on any policy within the project
>> that enforces the use of a single company's resources if they are only
>> controlled by that company.  Let's see how we can move this to the ASF (and
>> tweak / tune based on a better understanding of usage) before considering
>> it a project "policy".
>
> I think that's fair.  And if anything in this proposal that I worried about, 
> this is it.  The problem for me is we haven't gotten there for ASF infra in 
> two years and I'm worried that given the problems we're seeing with 4.4, we 
> will lose momentum if we simply wait.  I'm perfectly fine with exploring ways 
> to find a middle ground.  For example, if Citrix is to open the 
> infrastructure to community (I would need to find some way to convince 
> Citrix), is that acceptable?  Opening it to the public would still mean the 
> on-going cost is provided by Citrix so it's not truly independent of Citrix.  
> I'm open to any suggestions to move us forward faster here.
>

Like Chip, I am very concerned with this being dependent on a single
company, even if its the company that employs me. It isn't
sustainable, it excludes others from contributing, and makes the
project less independent because it depends on a single company's
infrastructure.

I'm also unclear on the answer to the question in the FAQ. The first
time I read it, I got the impression that you were happy to bring it
up on hardware at the ASF if the ASF wanted to own it. The second time
I read it I wondered if you meant that Citrix was going to attempt to
donate hardware.

Finally - what do you think you need from ASF infra to make this happen?

--David

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