I agree with Alex and would go further and say that the fact that for 4.3 RC7 the noredist build was broken was an epic fail in the automated testing, which needs addressing.
Regards, Paul Angus Cloud Architect S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus paul.an...@shapeblue.com -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 12 March 2014 22:47 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) This could also have an impact on adoption of the technology. People might shy away from a package that changes so frequently. I think a much more rigorous testing schedule would be a massive help to get RC's out the door. If you propose a feature I think part of the spec should be testing requirements (not code tests) and some indication of who will be performing the testing. Treat it as UAT. Regards Alex Hitchins D: +44 1892 523 587 | S: +44 2036 030 540 | M: +44 7788 423 969 alex.hitch...@shapeblue.com -----Original Message----- From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 March 2014 22:02 To: dev Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) That would require a whole other way of upgrading though. Having to restart all system vms every week or two is not something i would look forward to. On the other side, with more releases it wouldn't be that big issue to miss a freeze date, and with fewer new features / improvements it should hopefully require less fixes. -- Erik Weber 12. mars 2014 22:53 skrev "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> følgende: > If we produce a new feature per week, why not? > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Mike Tutkowski > <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> wrote: > > There has to be some minimum boundary, though, right? Otherwise we > > might > as > > well release every week. :) > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Daan Hoogland > ><daan.hoogl...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > >> Steve, > >> > >> As I have suggested before, we shoud not lengthen releas periods > >> but shorten them. I highly object to the idea of enlarging the > >> window and the release. It will pnly make relasing more difficult. > >> > >> with n releases there are n*(n-1) potential conficts of the simlest > >> kind and n*(n-1)(n-2) potential conflicts of a slightly mor complex > >> kind... The higher n ... do the math. The more we postpone a > >> feature freeze the higher n will get. And that is only talking of features. > >> not about the simpler fixes that are added. > >> > >> postponing when we have difficulty releasing quality makes no sense. > >> > >> kind regards, > >> Daan Hoogland > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Steve Wilson > >> <steve.wil...@citrix.com> > >> wrote: > >> > I think it was suggested multiple times that we push out the 4.4 > freeze > >> > date because the 4.3 work has been lagging. I think this is just > another > >> > indicator we need to evaluate our release cadence as a community. > >> > > >> > That being said, I don¹t think we want to hold 4.3 any further. > >> > This > >> must > >> > be the best tested RC in the history of software at this point. > Unless > >> > someone finds a new showstopper (that wasn¹t in the previous 6 > builds!) > >> > then let¹s get this puppy out! :-) > >> > > >> > -Steve > >> > > >> > On 3/12/14, 10:25 AM, "Mike Tutkowski" > >> > <mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >>I hate to point this out as I know we've been struggling to get > >> >>4.3 > out > >> >>the > >> >>door, but this week is probably not a great week to count votes > >> >>for > 4.3 > >> as > >> >>it is the last week before 4.4 Feature Freeze. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Wilder Rodrigues < > >> >>wrodrig...@schubergphilis.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi guys and gals, > >> >>> > >> >>> Based on the findings after my first round of tests, I give a > >> >>> +1 to > the > >> >>> 4.3 RC > >> >>> > >> >>> Please, find below what I have tested so far: > >> >>> > >> >>> * Environment > >> >>> - Management Server: Debian 7 VM under VirtualBox > >> >>> - DevCloud: XenServer 6.2 > >> >>> - MySQL: running on the DevCloud > >> >>> - System VM: Latest from > >> >>> > http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/view/4.3/job/cloudstack-4.3-systemvm/ > >> >>> > >> >>> * Initial start-up > >> >>> - Everything seems to work fine > >> >>> > >> >>> * Zone > >> >>> - DNS1: 8.8.8.8 > >> >>> - DNS2: 8.8.4.4 > >> >>> - Hypervisor: XenServer > >> >>> - Guest CIDR: 10.1.2.0/24 > >> >>> - Local Storage enabled: true > >> >>> > >> >>> * Public Traffic > >> >>> - 10.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0 / 10.1.1.2 / 10.1.1.100 > >> >>> > >> >>> * POD > >> >>> - 10.1.1.1 / 255.255.255.0 / 10.1.1.101 / 10.1.1.200 > >> >>> > >> >>> * VLAN > >> >>> - 101 - 109 > >> >>> > >> >>> * Host > >> >>> - Host Name: 178.237.34.120 > >> >>> - Username: root > >> >>> - Password: blah > >> >>> > >> >>> * Secondary Storage > >> >>> - Provider: NFS > >> >>> - Name: sec01 > >> >>> - Server: 10.1.1.114 > >> >>> - Path: /opt/storage/secondary > >> >>> > >> >>> ::: ALL GREEN UP TO NOW ::: > >> >>> > >> >>> * Create Instance > >> >>> - Featured: Tiny Linux > >> >>> - Compute Offering: Tiny Offering > >> >>> - Disk Offering: None > >> >>> - Instance name: cs43-01 > >> >>> > >> >>> * NIC Information > >> >>> - IP Address: 10.1.2.186 > >> >>> - Gateway: 10.1.2.1 > >> >>> - Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > >> >>> > >> >>> * Create Network > >> >>> - Name: devcloud-net01 > >> >>> - Type: Isolated > >> >>> - CIDR: 10.1.2.0/24 > >> >>> - Public IP: 10.1.1.4 [Source NAT] > >> >>> - Egress Rules: 0.0.0.0/0 - All > >> >>> - Network Offering: Offering for Isolated networks with > >> >>> Source Nat service enabled > >> >>> > >> >>> * Create ACLs > >> >>> - 10.1.0.0/16 - TCP - 22 - 22 > >> >>> - 10.1.0.0/16 - TCP - 443 - 443 > >> >>> > >> >>> * Create Port Forwarding > >> >>> - 22:22 - 22:22 - instance cs43-01 [10.1.2.186] > >> >>> - 443:443 - 443:443 - instance cs43-01 [10.1.2.186] > >> >>> > >> >>> * SSH into the new instance via the Public IP: > >> >>> > >> >>> [root@devcloud-wil01 ~]# ssh root@10.1.1.4 The authenticity of > >> >>> host '10.1.1.4 (10.1.1.4)' can't be established. > >> >>> RSA key fingerprint is > 02:43:6c:24:c5:79:b6:e2:c8:b7:e8:3c:8d:13:37:91. > >> >>> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes > >> >>> Warning: Permanently added '10.1.1.4' (RSA) to the list of > >> >>> known > hosts. > >> >>> root@10.1.1.4's password: > >> >>> % > >> >>> % > >> >>> % ls > >> >>> ssh-host-dss-key.pub ssh-host-rsa-key.pub % cd / % ls > >> >>> bin boot dev etc home lib > >> >>> lost+found mnt proc root sbin sys > >> >>>tmp > >> >>> usr var > >> >>> % > >> >>> > >> >>> With kind regards, > >> >>> Wilder > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:45 PM > >> >>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Hugo Trippaers > >> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi > >> >>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes, I can build now. > >> >>> > >> >>> :-) > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards > >> >>> > >> >>> Paul Angus > >> >>> Cloud Architect > >> >>> S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: CloudyAngus > >> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: Damoder Reddy [mailto:damoder.re...@citrix.com] > >> >>> Sent: 12 March 2014 10:49 > >> >>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; Hugo Trippaers > >> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi > >> >>> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> > >> >>> HI Paul, > >> >>> > >> >>> After you pull Hugo changes are you able to build now? > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks & Regards > >> >>> Damodar/ > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:04 PM > >> >>> To: Hugo Trippaers > >> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi; dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes that's correct. I'm building noredist > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> > >> >>> Paul Angus > >> >>> S: +44 20 3603 0540<tel:+44%2020%203603%200540> | M: > >> >>> +447711418784 > >> <tel: > >> >>> +447711418784> > >> >>> T: @CloudyAngus > >> >>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com<mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -------- Original message -------- > >> >>> From: Hugo Trippaers > >> >>> Date:12/03/2014 07:32 (GMT+00:00) > >> >>> To: Paul Angus > >> >>> Cc: Animesh Chaturvedi ,dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> > >> >>> Hey Paul, > >> >>> > >> >>> Just to be clear, this problem only occurs during the noredist > >> >>>build right? > >> >>> > >> >>> Mysql HA is one of the noredist features, so it should not be > present > >> in > >> >>> the regular build. > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm checking the poms now to see if everything is configured > correctly. > >> >>> > >> >>> Cheers, > >> >>> > >> >>> Hugo > >> >>> > >> >>> On 12 mrt. 2014, at 08:14, Paul Angus > >> >>> <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > If I manually fix the white spaces I can get past MySQL HA > Strategy, > >> >>>but > >> >>> then I hit: > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [INFO] > >> >>> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> >>> > -- [INFO] Building Apache CloudStack Client UI 4.3.0 [INFO] > >> >>> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > Downloading: > >> >>> > > >> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/cloudstack/cloud-plu > >> gin > >> >>> > -database-mysqlha/4.3.0/cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha-4.3.0.p > >> >>> > om > >> >>> > [WARNING] The POM for > >> >>> > org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha:jar:4.3.0 > >> >>> > is missing, no dependency information available > >> >>> > Downloading: > >> >>> > > >> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/cloudstack/cloud-plu > >> gin > >> >>> > -database-mysqlha/4.3.0/cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha-4.3.0.j > >> >>> > ar [ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project cloud-client-ui: > >> >>> > Could > not > >> >>> > resolve dependencies for project > >> >>> > org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-client-ui:war:4.3.0: Could not > >> >>> > find artifact > >> org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha:jar:4.3.0 > >> >>> > in central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2) -> [Help 1] > >> >>> > > >> >>> > MySQL HA Strategy seems to need a bit of work. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Regards, > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Paul Angus > >> >>> > Cloud Architect > >> >>> > S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447711418784 | T: @CloudyAngus > >> >>> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- > >> >>> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi > >> >>> > [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com] > >> >>> > Sent: 11 March 2014 19:31 > >> >>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> >>> > Cc: Hugo Trippaers; Hugo Trippaers > >> >>> > (htrippa...@schubergphilis.com > ); > >> >>> > Paul Angus > >> >>> > Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> >> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] > >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:35 AM > >> >>> >> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >> >>> >> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.3.0 (seventh round) > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Trying to build 4.3, the process bombs out for me at MySQL > >> >>> >> HA > >> >>>Strategy. > >> >>> >> And strangely it seems to be trying to build MySQL from > >> >>> >> Master > >> >>> >> (4.4.0- SNAPSHOT)? > >> >>> > [Animesh] Ok this came in from Hugo's commit that I > >> >>> > cherry-picked > >> >>> > > >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commitdi > >> ff; > >> >>> > h=472a387d2d828e21aff93a750ed3e178837a1879 > >> >>> > > >> >>> > from file plugins/database/mysql-ha/pom.xml This is a version > issue > >> >>> which can be fixed but should not affect functioning. Lets hear > >> >>>from Hugo on this. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > The other errors are formatting issues caught by checkstyle > >> >>> > plugin > >> >>>that > >> >>> can be ignored. The Jenkins build is successful. > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Ideas anyone? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> [INFO] Apache CloudStack Plugin - MySQL HA Strategy ...... > FAILURE > >> >>> >> [1.110s] [ERROR] Failed to execute goal > >> >>> >> org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-checkstyle- > >> >>> >> plugin:2.11:check (cloudstack-checkstyle) on project > >> >>> >> cloud-plugin-database- > >> >>> >> mysqlha: Failed during checkstyle execution: There are 6 > checkstyle > >> >>> >> errors. -> [Help 1] > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> [INFO] > >> >>> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> >>> >> - > >> >>> >> -- [INFO] Building Apache CloudStack Plugin - MySQL HA > >> >>> >> Strategy > >> >>> >> 4.4.0- SNAPSHOT [INFO] > >> >>> >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> >>> >> - > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> [INFO] > >> >>> >> [INFO] --- maven-clean-plugin:2.5:clean (default-clean) @ > >> >>> >> cloud-plugin- database-mysqlha --- [INFO] Deleting > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-ha/target (includes = [**/*], > excludes > >> = > >> >>> >> []) [INFO] Deleting > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql-ha (includes = [target, dist], > excludes > >> >>> >> = > >> >>> >> []) [INFO] [INFO] --- maven-checkstyle-plugin:2.11:check > >> >>> >> (cloudstack-checkstyle) @ cloud-plugin-database-mysqlha --- > [INFO] > >> >>> Starting audit... > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:54: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:58: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:60: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:110: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:120: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> /usr/local/4.3/cloudstack/dist/rpmbuild/BUILD/cloudstack- > >> >>> >> 4.3.0/plugins/database/mysql- > >> >>> >> ha/src/com/cloud/utils/db/StaticStrategy.java:127: Line has > trailing > >> >>> spaces. > >> >>> >> Audit done. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Regards, > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Paul Angus > >> >>> >> Cloud Architect > >> >>> >> S: +44 20 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