On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:57 PM, chris snow <chsnow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have started thinking about some options: > > 1) use packer to convert the devcloud2 veewee definition as a starting point > 2) create devcloud3 from scratch > 3) start with an existing packer definition (e.g. [1]) > > Do you have a view on which option may be most suitable? > My view would be to start from scratch but of course looking at what has been done. In an ideal world, I would love to see a packer/vagrant file that would do: -Ubuntu and CentOS -Xen and KVM That way we can decide on what to build. Of course there might be issues due to the PV/HVM support in vbox and the OS chosen. I don't recall what the issue was that made Rohit use Debian (but see http://bhaisaab.org/logs/devcloud/), but ideally it would be good to use stock ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 I list 13.04 because there seems to be an issue with libvirt in 12.04 in the case that you want ceph (http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-cloudstack/). Of course ceph on a single node does not make sense, but for a devcloud3 setup we could imagine setting up ceph in it and use it as primary storage. I mention KVM because if one uses VMware workstation than KVM would be an option. What I am doing these days is taking a veewee bare definition and using veewee-to-packer to get started with packer. I install chef/salt/puppet agents in the image so that I can use the 3 of them if I want to. > If we go with option 2 or 3, do you think debian 7.0 should be used as > a starting point, or another version such as 7.2 or 7.3? Or even > another distro? > > Are these goals still valid for devcloud3? > > - Two network interfaces, host-only adapter so that the VM is > reachable from host os and a NAT so VMs can access Internet. Yes > - Can be used both as an all in one box solution like the original > DevCloud but the mgmt server and other services can run elsewhere (on > host os). Yes > - Reduce resource requirements, so one could run it in 1G limit. Would be great, but remember that systemvm and ttylinux will run within it, so those 4 alone may use 1G > - Allow multiple DevCloud VMs hosts. That would be great. Having some skeleton for multiple devcloud hosts in a vagrant file so we can deploy "full" clouds. > - x86 dom0 and xen-i386 so it runs on all host os. > - Reduce exported appliance (ova) file size. > - It should be seamless, it should work out of the box. yes > > Are there any new requirements in addition to the ones discussed in > this email chain, e.g. > > - vagrant support (in addition to the ova/ovf image) > - packer and vagrant build environment > In simstack https://github.com/runseb/simstack I am trying to provide chef/salt/puppet recipes for the install. So in devcloud3, I would lay things out so that we can also do those 3 cfg mgt system in the future. Note that simstack is not devcloud as I am trying to run the simulator and have to compile from source because there is no simulator package. > > Many thanks, > > Chris > > > [1] https://github.com/opscode/bento/tree/master/packer > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for stepping in. That is much needed, in fact I think we should >>> use something like packer alongwith vagrant/veewee for both devcloud >>> and systemvmtemplate. Veewee can build vms, packer can export them to >>> various platforms/formats and a developer could use vagrant for local >>> devcloud/host automation. >>> >> >> I looked into it the other day and I agree we need to revamp this. >> >> veewee development and maintenance is going to stop. So we need to prep a >> packer version >> >> So yes we should create a packer definition for devcloud3 :) and be able to >> post-process it to vagrant. >> >> >> >>> Regards. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 AM, chris snow <chsnow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I would like to build the devcloud2 image [1] from scratch using >>>> veewee (or packer) and turn it into a vagrant box. >>>> >>>> There seems to be several versions of Vagrant files and veewee >>>> definitions in the code base, making it difficult to know which one to >>>> start from, or whether they are still valid. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> [1] http://bhaisaab.org/logs/devcloud/ >> > > > > -- > Check out my professional profile and connect with me on LinkedIn. > http://lnkd.in/cw5k69