+1, also a clearer Wiki to show how to contribute towards docs would be
good, including what repo to fetch - I assume this would be made easier
using Github Pull requests?

On the Wiki:
GIT Usage - with Examples
Conventional Markup (Linking to documentation can be daunting to some
users, causing them not to contribute - as with the case with Publican)

Marty


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Francois Gaudreault <
fgaudrea...@cloudops.com> wrote:

> +1.  Anything to move away from "manual" docbook is good!!! Now we won't
> have any reasons not to update the documentation if we find bugs in it :S
>
> asciidoc would have been another possibility tho... but reST is fine :)
>
> Francois
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:31 PM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath; msweet....@gmail.com; Mike Tutkowski
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PROPOSAL] Move docs to .rst format and readthedocs
> >
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi <
> > animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am +1 to make documentation easier but we just passed code freeze for
> > 4.3 and I feel we need to do it after 4.3.
> > >
> >
> > docs are not in the 4.3 code branch. it's different releases...
> >
> > Animesh> But they will be released together.
> >
> > >
> > > Animesh
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sebgoa [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:54 AM
> > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath; msweet....@gmail.com; Mike Tutkowski
> > > Subject: [DISCUSS][PROPOSAL] Move docs to .rst format and readthedocs
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There has been lots of discussion about docs over the last 3/4 months,
> > in summary the issues are:
> > >
> > > -Difficult to maintain and keep website up to date (issues with lang
> and
> > issues with pdf formatting lately) -Difficult to contribute to easily,
> > docbook is fine but tedious to work on.
> > > -Errors in the docs don't get properly fixed -Mix of OS information
> > -Lack of content for certain features -Docs release cycle. Docs have bugs
> > that will never get fixed in that specific release (because we see it as
> > code release)
> > >
> > > To remedy some of those issues and work on a new release process
> > specific to docs we moved the docs to its own repo:
> > >
> > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack-docs.git
> > >
> > > *I propose that we move away from docbook and use a more readable
> > format: restructuredtext*
> > >
> > > I have worked on a prototype that uses restructured text:
> > > http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
> > >
> > > This format makes it extremely easy to write docs. Existing docbook
> > content could be converted to .rst using a tool like pandoc:
> > > http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/
> > >
> > > *In addition to changing the format I propose that we use
> > readthedocs.org*
> > >
> > > This will help with the release and build of the docs. readthedocs
> grabs
> > the docs from a git repo, builds html, pdf and epub.
> > > It can also maintain several releases. We can apply a specific -theme-
> > to our docs.
> > >
> > > See a prototype here:
> > >
> > > http://cloudstack.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
> > >
> > > *I propose that we move to this as early as 4.3 documentation*
> > >
> > > Assuming this proposal passes, we would need to:
> > >
> > > -re-architect the repo
> > > -create the proper cnames to be in accordance with trademark guidelines
> > -we can decide what content to keep or not and convert what we keep.
> > > -decide how we organize the content
> > > -start accepting pull requests (noting that pages can be edited
> directly
> > from github) -make a first release of this new doc site at the same time
> > than 4.3 release.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thoughts, flames ?
> > >
> > >
> > > -Sebastien
> >
> >
>

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