On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Abhinandan Prateek <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com> 
wrote:

> Ok I will go that way till someone says that listing 175 tickets in
> CHANGES file will needlessly clutter it.
> Can we focus the list to blockers and criticals at least ?
> 

How was it done for 4.1.1 ?
all bugs or just blockers/citricals ?

I know listing 175 tickets seems like a lot, I am just arguing for consistency 
and automation.


> -abhi
> 
> On 15/11/13 6:34 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Abihnandan,
>> 
>> Why not include the output of the query instead of the query? I think
>> this is what Sebastien means. A list of the important ones can still
>> be prepended in more readable form afaic.
>> 
>> Daan
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Abhinandan Prateek
>> <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> For listing down the fixed issues, since there are ~175 of these. I will
>>> list down some important fixes.
>>> Followed by the query to give a exhaustive list, is that acceptable ?
>>> 
>>> For known issues will look at the 4.3/4.2 open tickets list down the
>>> important ones.
>>> 
>>> This will go in the CHANGES in source repo and RN in code repo.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -abhi
>>> 
>>> On 15/11/13 5:54 pm, "Abhinandan Prateek"
>>> <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To address the concern of RN we will not conclude the vote on RC (i.e.
>>>> Not
>>>> make a release)
>>>> till the RN in general and upgrade instructions in particular are also
>>>> of
>>>> acceptable quality.
>>>> As for other inconsistencies will work towards ironing those out.
>>>> 
>>>> -abhi
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/11/13 3:30 pm, "Sebastien Goasguen" <run...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Abhinandan Prateek
>>>>> <abhinandan.prat...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a RM I had agreed to Sebatian's suggestion of fixing the docs
>>>>>> specially
>>>>>> the upgrade section of it.
>>>>>> And off course doing a GA after the docs are fixed is on the cards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for the list of fixed and known issues I was told that a filter is
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> enough but it should be pretty easy to get the listing in the docs
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>> If someone has specific preferences it is easy to fix that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So it boils down to get opinion from folks on the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. RC build, this does not contain docs. I have seen no complains or
>>>>>> issues here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's fine, but releasing something without the upgrade instructions
>>>>> committed is bad.
>>>>> Even if the release of such upgrade instructions happen after the
>>>>> release
>>>>> of the code.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. Putting a full listing of bug fixes in RN Vs a filter. Even I will
>>>>>> think full listing is good or a query (instead of a URL?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am in favor of consistency. Prior to 4.2 we listed all BUGS
>>>>> explicitly.
>>>>> We should keep doing that.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Upgrade instructions are known to be bad and we will have to wait
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least till Wednesday to get these right.
>>>>>>    We have some volunteers already working on those and their
>>>>>> effort is
>>>>>> highly appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right, and since there is no rush, why not wait a bit till we can all
>>>>> look this with cool heads, double check the RN, bugs listing, upgrade
>>>>> instructions etc...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -abhi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15/11/13 2:50 pm, "Daan Hoogland" <daan.hoogl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So the -1 is because of the lack of rn and upgrade path docs,
>>>>>>> right, I
>>>>>>> think I proposed earlier this thread to release after the doc
>>>>>>> hackathon privided that. I wasn't really explicit about it I think
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> no one commented on this strategy. Would that be acceptable to you
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> (especially David and Sebastien)?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree btw that docs must be available, but I don't think these
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to be as stable as the release. We should allow for improving the
>>>>>>> docs
>>>>>>> on a release if needed. The net result of what I am proposing is
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> there will be a release and a docs rc. This is what the splitting of
>>>>>>> of the docs was about in my view,. Makes sense?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If not, we should not try to make CCC Europe with 4.2.1. I think
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> is what the hurry is about
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Daan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Sebastien Goasguen
>>>>>>> <run...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I might be behind on the discussions here, but I will veto an RC
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> does not have list of bugs fixed and proper upgrade path documented
>>>>>>>> (minimum of a fix from 4.2.0 upgrade docs). Separate repo of the
>>>>>>>> docs
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Right now I see that the bugs fix list points to a jira filter.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> not consistent with the way it was done in prior releases (explicit
>>>>>>>> listing) and in 4.2 (which pointed to the RN). We need consistency.
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> happens if someone changes this jira filter ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also would like to see the results of the test matrix for 4.2.1
>>>>>>>> running within jenkins.buildacloud.org.  This
>>>>>>>> http://jenkins.buildacloud.org/view/cloudstack-qa/ runs against
>>>>>>>> master
>>>>>>>> and has been failing for a while.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PS: I did test it and did the usual smoke test
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so -1 (binding) at this time
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Chip Childers
>>>>>>>> <chipchild...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Except that the separation only helps if it allows RC testing +
>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>> during doc finalization.  If we announce before docs, it hurts us.
>>>>>>>>> I'm against another announcement that goes out with the docs in
>>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>>> shape.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
>>>>>>>>> <animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Unless there are objection to the RC, I would prefer to have it
>>>>>>>>>> released and make the announcement sooner and showcase in collab
>>>>>>>>>> conference. As Chip mentions docs were broken out separately
>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Animesh
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/11/13 8:12 pm, "Sebastien Goasguen" <run...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway we can wait next week to release.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> quite a few of us will be together in Amsterdam, we can
>>>>>>>>>>> dedicate a
>>>>>>>>>>> hackathon session to 4.2.1 , make sure RN are good, upgrade path
>>>>>>>>>>> etcŠthen testŠ.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd recommend keeping the vote open until then.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -sebastien
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath
>>>>>>>>>>> <radhika.puthiyet...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The master has the most up-to-date RN for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Abhinandan Prateek
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: CloudStack Dev
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ASF4.2.1] Release Notes
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems the upgrade section of release notes will require a
>>>>>>>>>>>> review,
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably followed by a revamp (?).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we have some volunteers who are familiar with various
>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>>>>>>> paths comment on it ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Me and Radhika will try to consolidate those comments, snippets
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> fix the RN for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -abhi
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> RN for 4.2.1 =
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack-docs.git;a=
>>>>>>>>>>>> tr
>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>> e;
>>>>>>>>>>>> f
>>>>>>>>>>>> =re
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> lease-notes;h=8128d62c39236331492f3642914bf97b43ed2670;hb=refs/h
>>>>>>>>>>>> ea
>>>>>>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>>>>>> s/
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>>>>>> .2
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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