I can feel your pain, as well as Chip's, Dave's, Joe's and whoever was involved 
in past.

Here is a bit of uncharted territory we need to address about bug assignment. 

In past I've seen folks ask - we have X number of bugs that need to be triaged, 
who can take what? Are we still keeping this framework and do we default to 
whoever wrote the code/patch initially - if no one volunteers?

While Citrix is one of the main supporters of CloudStack project and has people 
employed to do development, how does one - who has no insight into Citrix - 
assign bugs to people who are employed by Citrix (and can we even do that 
without their full consent)? 

One other part, since Citrix and other companies have QA teams, perhaps we can 
have a closer collaboration as to what testing was done on Citrix side when it 
comes to major releases? (i.e. ACS 4.2 release)

I know in past Citrix would branch of from ACS or even have a separate 
codebase, but with future releases, its all going to be one ACS code base. So 
future actual release testing/qa (not automated as part of built process) 
should get easier since we have folks dedicated to work on ACS project to do QA 
or is this an incorrect assumption? 

I am also under impression it would help to have at least one person from 
Citrix on RM team, helps with communication, as they can tap people by other 
means other than mailing lists.

There are a lot of assumptions here, I could be wrong on all or some of these, 
please clarify or voice your opinion.

Thanks
ilya





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:25 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Release Managers for future ACS releases -
> enhacement
> 
> +1
> 
> Ilya I am glad that you brought it up and recognize the challenge. I survived
> on 3 cups of JetFuel[1] every day for last 3 months. It's like doing two
> $dayjob$ shifts
> 
> http://www.keurig.com/coffee/jet-fuel-extra-bold-coffee-k-cup-coffee-
> people
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusa...@webmd.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:02 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Release Managers for future ACS releases -
> > enhacement
> >
> > I apologize in advance if this is a repeat of something that was
> > previously stated.
> >
> > As Animesh learned recently with ACS 4.2, RM work for major versions
> > takes a lot of effort, to lesser extent the 4.2.x minor release may
> > not be as involved, but still decent amount of work.
> >
> > What complicates the matter further, is many of us have $dayjobs$ that
> > don't emphasize heavy involvement on ACS.
> >
> > Perhaps we can revisit the strategy and have 2 -3 release managers for
> > major version and 1-2 for minor.
> >
> > Obviously, one is going the be a Lead RM, and others will be secondary
> > but also involved.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this approach?
> >
> > Thanks
> > ilya
> 


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