thanks guys,

My conclusions so far;
20.3 Abhisar+Daan
22.1 Suresh
23 Wei+Fabricio

@Fabricio, I think your timeline looks good. Please do not consider it set
in stone yet.
@Abhisar do you want to take the lead and propose a timeline for 20.3?
@suresh same? Do you need, would you tolerate ;) a second RM?

Thank you all so far, and I wish everybody a good year's ending and a happy
new year!!!
Resolution: again a new LTS before the upcoming CCC 🎆🎇🧨

On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 3:23 PM Fabricio Duarte <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Great, I think we can proceed this way.
>
> While we are on this, what are your thoughts on the timeline I proposed
> originally for the release?
>
> On 12/16/25 10:34, Wei ZHOU wrote:
> > Hi Fabricio,
> >
> > Thank you !
> > I appreciate your openness and willingness to support.
> >
> > I would also be happy to serve as the RM for the 4.23 release.
> > If you’re comfortable with it, we can certainly have you involved in the
> > discussions and ongoing updates, so you can get familiar with the release
> > process and contribute where it makes sense.
> >
> > Please feel free to share your thoughts, and thanks again
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Wei
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 2:13 PM Fabricio Duarte <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Wei,
> >>
> >> I am open to start with a minor release if that is what the community
> >> thinks is better.
> >>
> >> With that said, I am still available and would be happy to support the
> >> RM for v23 in order to get used to the release process. Whoever takes on
> >> the next major can ping me either on the Slack community or on GitHub if
> >> there is anything that I can help with.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Fabricio
> >>
> >> On 12/15/25 15:28, Wei ZHOU wrote:
> >>> Hi Fabricio,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for volunteering.
> >>>
> >>> Since this would be your first time in the RM role, it might be a great
> >>> opportunity to start with a minor release.
> >>> Would you be open to waiting and taking on the next minor release
> instead
> >>> (for example, 4.20.4 or 4.22.2)? This will help you get familiar with
> the
> >>> process.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Wei
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 12:49 PM Fabricio Duarte <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to volunteer as the RM for v23.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not have a previous experience managing the community's release,
> >>>> but the guidelines linked by Daan seem clear enough for me. Also, I
> can
> >>>> get support from other members of the community if needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> My idea is to release v23 around the last week of May, so that we can
> >>>> get 2 major versions in 2026 with around 6.5 months for the
> development
> >>>> of each version. The timeline for this would be the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Until May 3rd: accept new features, bug fixes and improvements.
> >>>> - May 4th: freeze the main branch. From this point, we would only
> accept
> >>>> critical/blocker fixes.
> >>>> - May 11th: cut RC1 and start the vote (1-3 weeks to work on the next
> >>>> RCs if necessary).
> >>>>
> >>>> What does everyone think?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Fabricio
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025/12/11 11:54:32 Daan Hoogland wrote:
> >>>>    > devs (and users), Call me impatient, but I don't want us falling
> >> out of
> >>>>    > rhythm. We already have 'kind of' consensus on the next few
> >> releases;
> >>>> 4.20.3
> >>>>    > , -22.1 and -23. Do people agree with that assessment? next
> question
> >>>>    > obviously being; are there any volunteers to take on the RM work
> for
> >>>> those?
> >>>>    > (Being a PMC member helps but is definitely not a requirement, as
> >> there
> >>>>    > will be plenty of support) And if you volunteer, what are the
> >>>> timelines you
> >>>>    > would propose?
> >>>>    >
> >>>>    > my idea was:
> >>>>    > - 20.3 february
> >>>>    > - 22.1 march
> >>>>    > - 23 may , but the RM is to have a word in that of course
> >>>>    > The procedures around releases are a kind of tribal knowledge
> though
> >>>> there
> >>>>    > are some guides[1][2][3]. It would help if you are also willing
> to
> >> help
> >>>>    > kristalising and automating these; [1]
> >>>>    >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Release+Management+Guidelines%3A+Effective+CloudStack+Release+Manager
> >>>>    > [2]
> >>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Release+Procedure
> >>>>    > [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/LTS
> >>>>    >
> >>>>    > --
> >>>>    > Daan
> >>>>    >
> >>>>
>


-- 
Daan

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