NuxRo commented on code in PR #444:
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/444#discussion_r1793657405


##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -87,101 +66,28 @@ have MTU of 1500 bytes, meaning that your physical 
interface/bridge must have MT
 In order to configure "jumbo frames" you can i.e. make physical 
interface/bridge with 9000 bytes MTU, then all the VXLAN
 interfaces will be created with MTU of 8950 bytes, and then MTU size inside 
Instance can be set to 8950 bytes.
 
-Important note on max number of multicast groups (and thus VXLAN interfaces)
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Default value of "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" (cat 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships) is "20", which means that host can be 
joined to max 20 multicast groups (attach max 20 multicast IPs on the host).
-Since all VXLAN (VTEP) interfaces provisioned on host are multicast-based 
(belong to certain multicast group, and thus has it's own multicast IP that is 
used as VTEP), this means that you can not provision more than 20 (working) 
VXLAN interfaces per host.
-On Linux kernel 3.x you actually can provision more than 20, but ARP request 
will silently fail and cause client's networking problems
-On Linux kernel 4.x you can NOT provision (start) more than 20 VXLAN 
interfaces and error message "No buffer space available" can be observed in 
Cloudstack Agent logs after provisioning required bridges and VXLAN interfaces.
-Increase needed parameter to sane value (i.e. 100 or 200) as required.
-If you need to operate more than 20 Instances from different client's Network, 
this change above is required.
-
-Advanced: Build kernel and iproute2
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Even if your system doesn't support VXLAN, you can compile the kernel
-and iproute2 by yourself. The following procedure is an example for
-CentOS 6.4.
-
-
-Build kernel
-^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo yum groupinstall "Development Tools"
-   $ sudo yum install ncurses-devel hmaccalc zlib-devel binutils-devel 
elfutils-libelf-devel bc
-
-   $ KERNEL_VERSION=3.10.4
-   # Declare the kernel version you want to build.
-
-   $ wget 
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ tar xvf linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ cd linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}
-   $ cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
-   $ make oldconfig
-   # You may keep hitting enter and choose the default.
-
-   $ make menuconfig
-   # Dig into "Device Drivers" -> "Network device support",
-   # then select "Virtual eXtensible Local Area Network (VXLAN)" and hit space.
-   # Make sure it indicates "<M>" (build as module), then Save and Exit.
-
-   # You may also want to check "IPv4 NAT" and its child nodes in "IP: 
Netfilter Configuration"
-   # and "IPv6 NAT" and its child nodes in "IPv6: Netfilter Configuration".
-   # In 3.10.4, you can find the options in
-   # "Networking support" -> "Networking options"
-   #   -> "Network packet filtering framework (Netfilter)".
-
-   $ make # -j N
-   # You may use -j N option to make the build process parallel and faster,
-   # generally N = 1 + (cores your machine have).
-
-   $ sudo make modules_install
-   $ sudo make install
-   # You would get an error like "ERROR: modinfo: could not find module XXXX" 
here.
-   # This happens mainly due to config structure changes between kernel 
versions.
-   # You can ignore this error, until you find you need the kernel module.
-   # If you feel uneasy, you can go back to make menuconfig,
-   # find module XXXX by using '/' key, enable the module, build and install 
the kernel again.
-
-   $ sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
-   # Make sure the new kernel isn't set as the default and the timeout is long 
enough,
-   # so you can select the new kernel during boot process.
-   # It's not a good idea to set the new kernel as the default until you 
confirm the kernel works fine.
-
-   $ sudo reboot
-   # Select the new kernel during the boot process.
+In general it's recommend to use an MTU of at least 9000 bytes or larger. Most 
VXLAN capable network cards and switch support an MTU of up to 9216.

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   In general it's recommended to use an MTU of at least 9000 bytes or larger. 
Most VXLAN capable network cards and switch support an MTU of up to 9216.
   ```



##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -87,101 +66,28 @@ have MTU of 1500 bytes, meaning that your physical 
interface/bridge must have MT
 In order to configure "jumbo frames" you can i.e. make physical 
interface/bridge with 9000 bytes MTU, then all the VXLAN
 interfaces will be created with MTU of 8950 bytes, and then MTU size inside 
Instance can be set to 8950 bytes.
 
-Important note on max number of multicast groups (and thus VXLAN interfaces)
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Default value of "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" (cat 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships) is "20", which means that host can be 
joined to max 20 multicast groups (attach max 20 multicast IPs on the host).
-Since all VXLAN (VTEP) interfaces provisioned on host are multicast-based 
(belong to certain multicast group, and thus has it's own multicast IP that is 
used as VTEP), this means that you can not provision more than 20 (working) 
VXLAN interfaces per host.
-On Linux kernel 3.x you actually can provision more than 20, but ARP request 
will silently fail and cause client's networking problems
-On Linux kernel 4.x you can NOT provision (start) more than 20 VXLAN 
interfaces and error message "No buffer space available" can be observed in 
Cloudstack Agent logs after provisioning required bridges and VXLAN interfaces.
-Increase needed parameter to sane value (i.e. 100 or 200) as required.
-If you need to operate more than 20 Instances from different client's Network, 
this change above is required.
-
-Advanced: Build kernel and iproute2
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Even if your system doesn't support VXLAN, you can compile the kernel
-and iproute2 by yourself. The following procedure is an example for
-CentOS 6.4.
-
-
-Build kernel
-^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo yum groupinstall "Development Tools"
-   $ sudo yum install ncurses-devel hmaccalc zlib-devel binutils-devel 
elfutils-libelf-devel bc
-
-   $ KERNEL_VERSION=3.10.4
-   # Declare the kernel version you want to build.
-
-   $ wget 
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ tar xvf linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ cd linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}
-   $ cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
-   $ make oldconfig
-   # You may keep hitting enter and choose the default.
-
-   $ make menuconfig
-   # Dig into "Device Drivers" -> "Network device support",
-   # then select "Virtual eXtensible Local Area Network (VXLAN)" and hit space.
-   # Make sure it indicates "<M>" (build as module), then Save and Exit.
-
-   # You may also want to check "IPv4 NAT" and its child nodes in "IP: 
Netfilter Configuration"
-   # and "IPv6 NAT" and its child nodes in "IPv6: Netfilter Configuration".
-   # In 3.10.4, you can find the options in
-   # "Networking support" -> "Networking options"
-   #   -> "Network packet filtering framework (Netfilter)".
-
-   $ make # -j N
-   # You may use -j N option to make the build process parallel and faster,
-   # generally N = 1 + (cores your machine have).
-
-   $ sudo make modules_install
-   $ sudo make install
-   # You would get an error like "ERROR: modinfo: could not find module XXXX" 
here.
-   # This happens mainly due to config structure changes between kernel 
versions.
-   # You can ignore this error, until you find you need the kernel module.
-   # If you feel uneasy, you can go back to make menuconfig,
-   # find module XXXX by using '/' key, enable the module, build and install 
the kernel again.
-
-   $ sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
-   # Make sure the new kernel isn't set as the default and the timeout is long 
enough,
-   # so you can select the new kernel during boot process.
-   # It's not a good idea to set the new kernel as the default until you 
confirm the kernel works fine.
-
-   $ sudo reboot
-   # Select the new kernel during the boot process.
+In general it's recommend to use an MTU of at least 9000 bytes or larger. Most 
VXLAN capable network cards and switch support an MTU of up to 9216.
 
+Using an MTU of 9216 bytes allows for using Jumbo Frames (9000) within guest 
networks. 
 
-Build iproute2
-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
-::
-
-   $ sudo yum install db4-devel
+VXLAN using Multicast
+---------------------
+The default mode for using VXLAN is Multicast. The required configuration is 
described below.
 
-   $ git clone 
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/iproute2.git
-   $ cd iproute2
-   $ git tag
-   # Find the version that matches the kernel.
-   # If you built kernel 3.10.4 as above, it would be v3.10.0.
+Important note on max number of multicast groups
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
-   $ git checkout v3.10.0
-   $ ./configure
-   $ make # -j N
-   $ sudo make install
+Default value of "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" (cat 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships) is "20", which means that host can be 
joined to max 20 multicast groups (attach max 20 multicast IPs on the host).
 
+Since all VXLAN (VTEP) interfaces provisioned on host are multicast-based 
(belong to certain multicast group, and thus has it's own multicast IP that is 
used as VTEP), this means that you can not provision more than 20 (working) 
VXLAN interfaces per host.
 
-.. note:: Please use rebuild kernel and tools at your own risk.
+Under Linux you can NOT provision (start) more than 20 VXLAN interfaces and 
error message "No buffer space available" can be observed in Cloudstack Agent 
logs after provisioning required bridges and VXLAN interfaces.
 
+Increase needed parameter to sane value (i.e. 100 or 200) as required.

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   Increase the needed parameter to an appropriate value (i.e. 100 or 200) as 
required.
   ```



##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -87,101 +66,28 @@ have MTU of 1500 bytes, meaning that your physical 
interface/bridge must have MT
 In order to configure "jumbo frames" you can i.e. make physical 
interface/bridge with 9000 bytes MTU, then all the VXLAN
 interfaces will be created with MTU of 8950 bytes, and then MTU size inside 
Instance can be set to 8950 bytes.
 
-Important note on max number of multicast groups (and thus VXLAN interfaces)
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Default value of "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" (cat 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships) is "20", which means that host can be 
joined to max 20 multicast groups (attach max 20 multicast IPs on the host).
-Since all VXLAN (VTEP) interfaces provisioned on host are multicast-based 
(belong to certain multicast group, and thus has it's own multicast IP that is 
used as VTEP), this means that you can not provision more than 20 (working) 
VXLAN interfaces per host.
-On Linux kernel 3.x you actually can provision more than 20, but ARP request 
will silently fail and cause client's networking problems
-On Linux kernel 4.x you can NOT provision (start) more than 20 VXLAN 
interfaces and error message "No buffer space available" can be observed in 
Cloudstack Agent logs after provisioning required bridges and VXLAN interfaces.
-Increase needed parameter to sane value (i.e. 100 or 200) as required.
-If you need to operate more than 20 Instances from different client's Network, 
this change above is required.
-
-Advanced: Build kernel and iproute2
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
-Even if your system doesn't support VXLAN, you can compile the kernel
-and iproute2 by yourself. The following procedure is an example for
-CentOS 6.4.
-
-
-Build kernel
-^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo yum groupinstall "Development Tools"
-   $ sudo yum install ncurses-devel hmaccalc zlib-devel binutils-devel 
elfutils-libelf-devel bc
-
-   $ KERNEL_VERSION=3.10.4
-   # Declare the kernel version you want to build.
-
-   $ wget 
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ tar xvf linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}.tar.xz
-   $ cd linux-${KERNEL_VERSION}
-   $ cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
-   $ make oldconfig
-   # You may keep hitting enter and choose the default.
-
-   $ make menuconfig
-   # Dig into "Device Drivers" -> "Network device support",
-   # then select "Virtual eXtensible Local Area Network (VXLAN)" and hit space.
-   # Make sure it indicates "<M>" (build as module), then Save and Exit.
-
-   # You may also want to check "IPv4 NAT" and its child nodes in "IP: 
Netfilter Configuration"
-   # and "IPv6 NAT" and its child nodes in "IPv6: Netfilter Configuration".
-   # In 3.10.4, you can find the options in
-   # "Networking support" -> "Networking options"
-   #   -> "Network packet filtering framework (Netfilter)".
-
-   $ make # -j N
-   # You may use -j N option to make the build process parallel and faster,
-   # generally N = 1 + (cores your machine have).
-
-   $ sudo make modules_install
-   $ sudo make install
-   # You would get an error like "ERROR: modinfo: could not find module XXXX" 
here.
-   # This happens mainly due to config structure changes between kernel 
versions.
-   # You can ignore this error, until you find you need the kernel module.
-   # If you feel uneasy, you can go back to make menuconfig,
-   # find module XXXX by using '/' key, enable the module, build and install 
the kernel again.
-
-   $ sudo vi /etc/grub.conf
-   # Make sure the new kernel isn't set as the default and the timeout is long 
enough,
-   # so you can select the new kernel during boot process.
-   # It's not a good idea to set the new kernel as the default until you 
confirm the kernel works fine.
-
-   $ sudo reboot
-   # Select the new kernel during the boot process.
+In general it's recommend to use an MTU of at least 9000 bytes or larger. Most 
VXLAN capable network cards and switch support an MTU of up to 9216.
 
+Using an MTU of 9216 bytes allows for using Jumbo Frames (9000) within guest 
networks. 
 
-Build iproute2
-^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
-::
-
-   $ sudo yum install db4-devel
+VXLAN using Multicast
+---------------------
+The default mode for using VXLAN is Multicast. The required configuration is 
described below.
 
-   $ git clone 
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/shemminger/iproute2.git
-   $ cd iproute2
-   $ git tag
-   # Find the version that matches the kernel.
-   # If you built kernel 3.10.4 as above, it would be v3.10.0.
+Important note on max number of multicast groups
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
-   $ git checkout v3.10.0
-   $ ./configure
-   $ make # -j N
-   $ sudo make install
+Default value of "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" (cat 
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships) is "20", which means that host can be 
joined to max 20 multicast groups (attach max 20 multicast IPs on the host).
 
+Since all VXLAN (VTEP) interfaces provisioned on host are multicast-based 
(belong to certain multicast group, and thus has it's own multicast IP that is 
used as VTEP), this means that you can not provision more than 20 (working) 
VXLAN interfaces per host.
 
-.. note:: Please use rebuild kernel and tools at your own risk.
+Under Linux you can NOT provision (start) more than 20 VXLAN interfaces and 
error message "No buffer space available" can be observed in Cloudstack Agent 
logs after provisioning required bridges and VXLAN interfaces.
 
+Increase needed parameter to sane value (i.e. 100 or 200) as required.
 
-Configure CloudStack to use VXLAN Plugin
--------------------------------------
+If you need to operate more than 20 Instances from different client's Network, 
this change above is required.

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   If you need to operate more than 20 Instances from different client 
networks, the change above is required.
   ```



##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -328,70 +234,134 @@ Since VXLAN uses UDP packet to forward encapsulated the 
L2 frames,
 UDP/8472 port must be opened.
 
 
-Configure in RHEL or CentOS
-'''''''''''''''''''''''''''
-
-RHEL and CentOS use iptables for firewalling the system, you can open
-extra ports by executing the following iptable commands:
+Make sure that your firewall (firewalld, ufw, ...) allows UDP packets on port 
8472, as an example:
 
 ::
 
-   $ sudo iptables -I INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8472 -j ACCEPT
-
-
-These iptable settings are not persistent accross reboots, we have to
-save them first.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
-
-
-With this configuration you should be able to restart the Network,
-although a reboot is recommended to see if everything works properly.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo service network restart
-   $ sudo reboot
+   $ sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --permanent --add-port=8472/udp
+   $ sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to any port 8472
 
 
-.. warning::
-   Make sure you have an alternative way like IPMI or ILO to reach the machine
-   in case you made a configuration error and the Network stops functioning!
 
+VXLAN using EVPN
+---------------------
+Using VXLAN with BGP+EVPN as underlay is more complex to set up, but does 
allow for more scaling and provides much more flexibility.
 
-Configure in Ubuntu
-'''''''''''''''''''
+This documentation can not cover all elements of deploying BGP+EVPN in your 
environment.
 
-The default firewall under Ubuntu is UFW (Uncomplicated FireWall), which
-is a Python wrapper around iptables.
+It is recommend to read `this blogpost 
<https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2017-vxlan-bgp-evpn>`_ before you continue. 
 
-To open the required ports, execute the following commands:
+The main items for using EVPN:
 
-::
+- BGP Routing Daemon on the hypervisor
+- No LACP/Bonding will be used
+- Modified script is required to use EVPN instead of Multicast
 
-   $ sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to any port 8472
+EVPN Bash script
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+The default 'modifyvxlan.sh' script this is installed by CloudStack uses 
Multicast for VXLAN.
 
-.. note::
-   By default UFW is not enabled on Ubuntu. Executing these commands with the
-   firewall disabled does not enable the firewall.
+A different version of this script is available which will use EVPN instead of 
Multicast and ships with CloudStack by default.
 
-With this configuration you should be able to restart the Network,
-although a reboot is recommended to see if everything works properly.
+In order to use this script create a symlink on **each** KVM hypervisor
 
 ::
-
-   $ sudo service networking restart
-   $ sudo reboot
-
-.. warning::
-   Make sure you have an alternative way like IPMI or ILO to reach the machine
-   in case you made a configuration error and the Network stops functioning!
-
+  $ cd /usr/share
+  $ ln -s cloudstack-common/scripts/vm/network/vnet/modifyvxlan-evpn.sh 
modifyvxlan.sh
+
+This script is also available in the CloudStack `GIT repository 
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apache/cloudstack/refs/heads/main/scripts/vm/network/vnet/modifyvxlan-evpn.sh>`_.
+
+View the contents of the script to understand it's inner workings, some key 
items:

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   View the contents of the script to understand its inner workings, some key 
items:
   ```



##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -328,70 +234,134 @@ Since VXLAN uses UDP packet to forward encapsulated the 
L2 frames,
 UDP/8472 port must be opened.
 
 
-Configure in RHEL or CentOS
-'''''''''''''''''''''''''''
-
-RHEL and CentOS use iptables for firewalling the system, you can open
-extra ports by executing the following iptable commands:
+Make sure that your firewall (firewalld, ufw, ...) allows UDP packets on port 
8472, as an example:
 
 ::
 
-   $ sudo iptables -I INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8472 -j ACCEPT
-
-
-These iptable settings are not persistent accross reboots, we have to
-save them first.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
-
-
-With this configuration you should be able to restart the Network,
-although a reboot is recommended to see if everything works properly.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo service network restart
-   $ sudo reboot
+   $ sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --permanent --add-port=8472/udp
+   $ sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to any port 8472
 
 
-.. warning::
-   Make sure you have an alternative way like IPMI or ILO to reach the machine
-   in case you made a configuration error and the Network stops functioning!
 
+VXLAN using EVPN
+---------------------
+Using VXLAN with BGP+EVPN as underlay is more complex to set up, but does 
allow for more scaling and provides much more flexibility.
 
-Configure in Ubuntu
-'''''''''''''''''''
+This documentation can not cover all elements of deploying BGP+EVPN in your 
environment.
 
-The default firewall under Ubuntu is UFW (Uncomplicated FireWall), which
-is a Python wrapper around iptables.
+It is recommend to read `this blogpost 
<https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2017-vxlan-bgp-evpn>`_ before you continue. 
 
-To open the required ports, execute the following commands:
+The main items for using EVPN:
 
-::
+- BGP Routing Daemon on the hypervisor
+- No LACP/Bonding will be used
+- Modified script is required to use EVPN instead of Multicast

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   - The modified script is required
   ```



##########
source/plugins/vxlan.rst:
##########
@@ -328,70 +234,134 @@ Since VXLAN uses UDP packet to forward encapsulated the 
L2 frames,
 UDP/8472 port must be opened.
 
 
-Configure in RHEL or CentOS
-'''''''''''''''''''''''''''
-
-RHEL and CentOS use iptables for firewalling the system, you can open
-extra ports by executing the following iptable commands:
+Make sure that your firewall (firewalld, ufw, ...) allows UDP packets on port 
8472, as an example:
 
 ::
 
-   $ sudo iptables -I INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8472 -j ACCEPT
-
-
-These iptable settings are not persistent accross reboots, we have to
-save them first.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
-
-
-With this configuration you should be able to restart the Network,
-although a reboot is recommended to see if everything works properly.
-
-::
-
-   $ sudo service network restart
-   $ sudo reboot
+   $ sudo firewall-cmd --zone=public --permanent --add-port=8472/udp
+   $ sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to any port 8472
 
 
-.. warning::
-   Make sure you have an alternative way like IPMI or ILO to reach the machine
-   in case you made a configuration error and the Network stops functioning!
 
+VXLAN using EVPN
+---------------------
+Using VXLAN with BGP+EVPN as underlay is more complex to set up, but does 
allow for more scaling and provides much more flexibility.
 
-Configure in Ubuntu
-'''''''''''''''''''
+This documentation can not cover all elements of deploying BGP+EVPN in your 
environment.
 
-The default firewall under Ubuntu is UFW (Uncomplicated FireWall), which
-is a Python wrapper around iptables.
+It is recommend to read `this blogpost 
<https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2017-vxlan-bgp-evpn>`_ before you continue. 
 
-To open the required ports, execute the following commands:
+The main items for using EVPN:
 
-::
+- BGP Routing Daemon on the hypervisor
+- No LACP/Bonding will be used
+- Modified script is required to use EVPN instead of Multicast
 
-   $ sudo ufw allow proto udp from any to any port 8472
+EVPN Bash script
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+The default 'modifyvxlan.sh' script this is installed by CloudStack uses 
Multicast for VXLAN.

Review Comment:
   ```suggestion
   The default 'modifyvxlan.sh' script installed by CloudStack uses Multicast 
for VXLAN.
   ```



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