Noah, I agree that there needs to be a delineation. Here's my option on wording describing what is non-technical:
+3.4.2. Non-Technical Decisions +Non-technical decisions should normally be made by the entire community using +discussion-lead consensus-building, and not through formal voting. + +Non-technical decisions are defined as a decision that do not directly affect +the code in any branch of the project. +Including coding, testing, documentation or management of the code base. + +Non-technical decisions can be made on whichever project mailing list is most +appropriate. + +Non-technical decisions cannot be vetoed, but if there is strong opposition +a formal vote can be used to resolve the dispute. + +If a formal vote is started for a non-technical decision, the vote will be held +as a lazy 2/3 majority of active committers. + +Any user, contributor, committer or PMC member can initiate a non-technical +decision making process. Matt Mullins Cloud Platforms Implementation Engineer Worldwide Cloud Services Citrix System, Inc. +1 (407) 920-1107 Office/Cell Phone matt.mull...@citrix.com On 6/20/13 11:59 AM, "Noah Slater" <nsla...@apache.org> wrote: >Less terse follow up... ;) > >Note that our current by-laws effectively state that any technical >decision >needs to happen on dev@. I am just clarifying the intent. > >Note also that we currently do not define what a "technical decision" is, >but it is my opinion that this is any decision which relates to the >CloudStack source code. (We might want to make it a little broader than >that. Open to suggestions.) > >Almost everything we do involves technology. Whether that is editing the >website, wiki, JIRA, mailing lists, etc. That doesn't mean that those >activities are "technical activities" or involve "technical decisions". > >Do you think our by-laws need a section clarifying technical vs. >non-technical? What should it say? > > >On 20 June 2013 15:14, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013, at 08:21 AM, Noah Slater wrote: >> > Devs, >> > >> > I would like to call a vote on the following modification to our >>by-laws. >> > This is in response to the >> > >> > Summary of changes: >> > >> > * Addition of "3.4.2. Non-Technical Decisions" section. This specifies >> > that >> > non-technical decisions can be made on any appropriate list (i.e. >> > marketing@) >> >> Erm. Does this mean that marketing can't make any technical decisions >> about the Web site, for instance? >> >> I think this needs to be better worded. >> >> >> Best, >> >> jzb >> -- >> Joe Brockmeier >> j...@zonker.net >> Twitter: @jzb >> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ >> > > > >-- >NS