On 18 Jun 2013, at 17:08, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Prasanna Santhanam <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 10:26:43AM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I was about to test CloudStack but the cloudmonkey-4.1.0-0 release on pypi
>>>> does not bundle failsafe api cache so when I install it I don't get any api
>>>> commands. The autodiscovery using sync is useful but only with the
>>>> ApiDiscovery plugin which works only for 4.2 and later. For 4.1 and below I
>>>> think we should, in that case, bundle the cache for all the apis. Or maybe
>>>> just oss components/plugins?
>>>> 
>>>> I'll wait for Chip and others to comment if we want to ship it as it is or
>>>> bundle the cache against 4.1 release?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> Honestly - this is exactly why I've been suggesting[1] that we break
>>> CloudMonkey (and Marvin) out of the main repo and giving it it's own
>>> lifecycle. It's far easier/faster to iterate cloudmonkey than all of
>>> CloudStack and tying it to the slower lifecycle of ACS will continue
>>> to trouble it IMO.
>>> 
>>> --David
>>> 
>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/wir5vfawex3y22ot
>> 
>> I haven't given breaking out the project much thought. But it's
>> certainly a possibility:
>> 
>> a) However, there are parts of the codebase (checkin tests) that depend
>> on marvin.
>> 
>> b) I need to come up with a easier way to update marvin across
>> cloudstack providers to enable auto-upating marvin's libraries like
>> cloudmonkey can. For this I've made a couple enhancements to
>> apidiscovery but it's not in master yet and I don't have it fully
>> figured out.
>> 
>> Need some time to think through this.
>> 
>> --
>> Prasanna.,
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> 
> 
> OK - are your concerns CM-related? or Marvin only?
> 
> Any problems I am not seeing with breaking out CloudMonkey?
> 
> Anyone else have concerns here about breaking out CloudMonkey?
> 
> --David

Could we talk about it during the hack day and report to the list ? I for one 
dont understand how these break out repos would work ...process wise, release 
wise, ml wise etc ?

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