I'm not sure if this fits in the discussion, I was asking Wei how
cloudstack chooses the system vm template during normal operation. I
get how the upgrades work, but I don't get how cloudstack chooses the
system template to use when actually deploying:

I'm looking at it from a different perspective, not a CS
upgrade, but say we have to roll a new systemvm template for an
existing CS version. Say we rolled 4.2, with a new template, and then
two months later we realize that the template is missing dnsmasq or
something, and we have to have everyone install a new template. Do we
actually have to overwrite the existing template in-place on secondary
storage, then on each primary storage while the system vms are down?
Or can we register a new template, and the new template gets installed
on primary storage as system vms are rebooted.

 I saw that the upgrade scripts had that 'select max' statement, but
that just fetches the id for installing the template to secondary
storage. When I deploy a router, how does cloudstack select the
template for that?

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Wei ZHOU <ustcweiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my point view, we ask users register new template in the upgrade
> instruction in release notes. If they do not register, it is their
> fault. If they do but upgrade fails, it is our fault.
>
> I admit that it is a good way to change each upgrade process and
> remove old templates when we use new template. It is not large work.
>
> -Wei
>
> 2013/6/6, Kishan Kavala <kishan.kav...@citrix.com>:
>> In the mentioned example, when new template for 4.3 is introduced, we should
>> remove template upgrade code in Upgrade41to42. This will make upgrade
>> succeed even when systemvm-kvm-4.2 is not in database.
>> On the other hand, if we allow 'systemvm-kvm-%', upgrade to 4.3 will succeed
>> even though the required systemvm-kvm-4.3 is not in database.
>>
>> So, every time a new system vm template is added, template upgrade from
>> previous version should be removed.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Wei ZHOU [ustcweiz...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:56 PM
>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: git commit: updated refs/heads/master to 9fe7846
>>
>> Kishan,
>>
>> I know.
>>
>> If we upgrade from 4.1 to 4.3 ( assume the systemvm template is
>> systemvm-kvm-4.3). We need to add systemvm-kvm-4.3 instead of
>> systemvm-kvm-4.2. Maybe systemvm-kvm-4.2 is not in database.
>> The upgrade includes Upgrade41to42 and Upgrade42to43. It will fail in the
>> Upgrade41to42.
>>
>> -Wei
>>
>>
>> 2013/6/5 Kishan Kavala <kishan.kav...@citrix.com>
>>
>>> Wei,
>>>  If we use other templates, system Vms may not work. Only 4.2 templates
>>> should be used when upgrading to 4.2.
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Wei ZHOU [mailto:ustcweiz...@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 3:26 PM
>>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> > Subject: Re: git commit: updated refs/heads/master to 9fe7846
>>> >
>>> > Kishan,
>>> >
>>> > What do you think about change some codes to "name like 'systemvm-
>>> > xenserver-%' " ?
>>> > If we use other templates, the upgrade maybe fail.
>>> >
>>> > -Wei
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/6/5 <kis...@apache.org>
>>> >
>>> > > Updated Branches:
>>> > >   refs/heads/master 91b15711b -> 9fe7846d7
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > CLOUDSTACK-2728: 41-42 DB upgrade: add step to upgrade system
>>> > > templates
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Project: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cloudstack/repo
>>> > > Commit:
>>> > > http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cloudstack/commit/9fe7846d
>>> > > Tree: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cloudstack/tree/9fe7846d
>>> > > Diff: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cloudstack/diff/9fe7846d
>>> > >
>>> > > Branch: refs/heads/master
>>> > > Commit: 9fe7846d72e401720e1dcbce52d021e2646429f1
>>> > > Parents: 91b1571
>>> > > Author: Harikrishna Patnala <harikrishna.patn...@citrix.com>
>>> > > Authored: Mon Jun 3 12:33:58 2013  0530
>>> > > Committer: Kishan Kavala <kis...@cloud.com>
>>> > > Committed: Wed Jun 5 15:14:04 2013  0530
>>> > >
>>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >  .../src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java |  209
>>> > >               -
>>> > >  1 files changed, 204 insertions( ), 5 deletions(-)
>>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cloudstack/blob/9fe7846d/engine
>>> > > /schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java
>>> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > > diff --git
>>> > > a/engine/schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java
>>> > > b/engine/schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java
>>> > > index 1584973..955ea56 100644
>>> > > --- a/engine/schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java
>>> > >     b/engine/schema/src/com/cloud/upgrade/dao/Upgrade410to420.java
>>> > > @@ -112,16  112,215 @@ public class Upgrade410to420 implements
>>> > DbUpgrade {
>>> > >      }
>>> > >
>>> > >      private void updateSystemVmTemplates(Connection conn) {
>>> > > -           PreparedStatement sql = null;
>>> > >
>>> > >          PreparedStatement pstmt = null;
>>> > >          ResultSet rs = null;
>>> > >          boolean xenserver = false;
>>> > >          boolean kvm = false;
>>> > >          boolean VMware = false;
>>> > >          boolean Hyperv = false;
>>> > >          boolean LXC = false;
>>> > >          s_logger.debug("Updating System Vm template IDs");
>>> > >          try{
>>> > >              //Get all hypervisors in use
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select
>>> > > distinct(hypervisor_type) from `cloud`.`cluster` where removed is
>>> > > null");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  while(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      if("XenServer".equals(rs.getString(1))){
>>> > >                          xenserver = true;
>>> > >                      } else if("KVM".equals(rs.getString(1))){
>>> > >                          kvm = true;
>>> > >                      } else if("VMware".equals(rs.getString(1))){
>>> > >                          VMware = true;
>>> > >                      } else if("Hyperv".equals(rs.getString(1))) {
>>> > >                          Hyperv = true;
>>> > >                      } else if("LXC".equals(rs.getString(1))) {
>>> > >                          LXC = true;
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while listing
>>> > > hypervisors in use", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating XenSever System Vms");
>>> > >              //XenServer
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  //Get 4.2.0 xenserer system Vm template Id
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select id from
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` where name like 'systemvm-xenserver-4.2' and
>>> > > removed is null order by id desc limit 1");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  if(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      long templateId = rs.getLong(1);
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // change template type to SYSTEM
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` set type='SYSTEM' where id = ?");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // update templete ID of system Vms
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_instance` set vm_template_id = ? where type <> 'User' and
>>> > > hypervisor_type = 'XenServer'");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } else {
>>> > >                      if (xenserver){
>>> > >                          throw new CloudRuntimeException("4.2.0
>>> > >   XenServer
>>> > > SystemVm template not found. Cannot upgrade system Vms");
>>> > >                      } else {
>>> > >                          s_logger.warn("4.2.0 XenServer SystemVm
>>> > >   template
>>> > > not found. XenServer hypervisor is not used, so not failing upgrade");
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while updating
>>> > > XenServer systemVm template", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >              //KVM
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating KVM System Vms");
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  //Get 4.2.0 KVM system Vm template Id
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select id from
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` where name = 'systemvm-kvm-4.2' and removed is
>>> > > null order by id desc limit 1");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  if(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      long templateId = rs.getLong(1);
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // change template type to SYSTEM
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` set type='SYSTEM' where id = ?");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // update templete ID of system Vms
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_instance` set vm_template_id = ? where type <> 'User' and
>>> > > hypervisor_type = 'KVM'");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } else {
>>> > >                      if (kvm){
>>> > >                          throw new CloudRuntimeException("4.2.0 KVM
>>> > > SystemVm template not found. Cannot upgrade system Vms");
>>> > >                      } else {
>>> > >                          s_logger.warn("4.2.0 KVM SystemVm template
>>> > >   not
>>> > > found. KVM hypervisor is not used, so not failing upgrade");
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while updating
>>> > >   KVM
>>> > > systemVm template", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >              //VMware
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating VMware System Vms");
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  //Get 4.2.0 VMware system Vm template Id
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select id from
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` where name = 'systemvm-vmware-4.2' and
>>> > removed
>>> > > is null order by id desc limit 1");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  if(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      long templateId = rs.getLong(1);
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // change template type to SYSTEM
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` set type='SYSTEM' where id = ?");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // update templete ID of system Vms
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_instance` set vm_template_id = ? where type <> 'User' and
>>> > > hypervisor_type = 'VMware'");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } else {
>>> > >                      if (VMware){
>>> > >                          throw new CloudRuntimeException("4.2.0 VMware
>>> > > SystemVm template not found. Cannot upgrade system Vms");
>>> > >                      } else {
>>> > >                          s_logger.warn("4.2.0 VMware SystemVm template
>>> > >   not
>>> > > found. VMware hypervisor is not used, so not failing upgrade");
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while updating
>>> > > VMware systemVm template", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >              //Hyperv
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating Hyperv System Vms");
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  //Get 4.2.0 Hyperv system Vm template Id
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select id from
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` where name = 'systemvm-hyperv-4.2' and removed
>>> > > is null order by id desc limit 1");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  if(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      long templateId = rs.getLong(1);
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // change template type to SYSTEM
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` set type='SYSTEM' where id = ?");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // update templete ID of system Vms
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_instance` set vm_template_id = ? where type <> 'User' and
>>> > > hypervisor_type = 'Hyperv'");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } else {
>>> > >                      if (Hyperv){
>>> > >                          throw new CloudRuntimeException("4.2.0 HyperV
>>> > > SystemVm template not found. Cannot upgrade system Vms");
>>> > >                      } else {
>>> > >                          s_logger.warn("4.2.0 Hyperv SystemVm template
>>> > >   not
>>> > > found. Hyperv hypervisor is not used, so not failing upgrade");
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while updating
>>> > > Hyperv systemVm template", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >              //LXC
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating LXC System Vms");
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  //Get 4.2.0 LXC system Vm template Id
>>> > >                  pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("select id from
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` where name = 'systemvm-lxc-4.2' and removed is
>>> > > null order by id desc limit 1");
>>> > >                  rs = pstmt.executeQuery();
>>> > >                  if(rs.next()){
>>> > >                      long templateId = rs.getLong(1);
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // change template type to SYSTEM
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_template` set type='SYSTEM' where id = ?");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                      // update templete ID of system Vms
>>> > >                      pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update
>>> > > `cloud`.`vm_instance` set vm_template_id = ? where type <> 'User' and
>>> > > hypervisor_type = 'LXC'");
>>> > >                      pstmt.setLong(1, templateId);
>>> > >                      pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } else {
>>> > >                      if (LXC){
>>> > >                          throw new CloudRuntimeException("4.2.0 LXC
>>> > > SystemVm template not found. Cannot upgrade system Vms");
>>> > >                      } else {
>>> > >                          s_logger.warn("4.2.0 LXC SystemVm template
>>> > >   not
>>> > > found. LXC hypervisor is not used, so not failing upgrade");
>>> > >                      }
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  throw new CloudRuntimeException("Error while updating
>>> > >   LXC
>>> > > systemVm template", e);
>>> > >              }
>>> > >              s_logger.debug("Updating System Vm Template IDs
>>> Complete");
>>> > >          }
>>> > >          finally {
>>> > >              try {
>>> > >                  if (rs != null) {
>>> > >                      rs.close();
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >
>>> > >                  if (pstmt != null) {
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >              }
>>> > >          }
>>> > >          pstmt = null;
>>> > >          try {
>>> > > -            sql = conn.prepareStatement("update vm_template set
>>> > > image_data_store_id = 1 where type = 'SYSTEM' or type = 'BUILTIN'");
>>> > > -            sql.executeUpdate();
>>> > >              pstmt = conn.prepareStatement("update vm_template set
>>> > > image_data_store_id = 1 where type = 'SYSTEM' or type = 'BUILTIN'");
>>> > >              pstmt.executeUpdate();
>>> > >          } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >              throw new CloudRuntimeException("Failed to upgrade vm
>>> > > template data store uuid: "   e.toString());
>>> > >          } finally {
>>> > > -            if (sql != null) {
>>> > >              if (pstmt != null) {
>>> > >                  try {
>>> > > -                    sql.close();
>>> > >                      pstmt.close();
>>> > >                  } catch (SQLException e) {
>>> > >                  }
>>> > >              }
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>

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