THere's literally hundreds of other features that work just fine on
XCP/Xen. 
What you are complaining against is the nature of time-based releases. The
drag from 4.1 is jeopardizing 4.2, 4.3, etc, making a mockery of our
stated goal of 3 releases a year.

There's developers who had to pull out their features from 4.1 because it
wasn't ready by 1/31. Nobody whined asking for a couple more weeks. And
that was the right thing to do. Now we have developers racing to meet the
5/31 deadline for 4.2 and they are being dragged into the quagmire of 4.1,
which is a perfectly fine release for 99% of the users out there.


On 5/21/13 7:39 PM, "Outback Dingo" <outbackdi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Chiradeep Vittal <
>chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
>> Outback, it would be helpful to understand the harm you are facing
>>without
>> this fix.
>> Are you operating a CloudStack cloud already? Have you lost Vms/ lost
>>data
>> / faced unexplained crashes, or found your cloud unavailable due to
>>this?
>> Note that this bug has been there since 2.2
>>
>>
>It would break a current migration path to s3 storage capabilities
>currently being rolled out for XEN based hypervisors
>as it was mentioned in the thread. This negates our and others
>capabilities
>to be inline with other Hypervisors, and
>having to wait until a fix/patch can be applied. It also negates current
>infrastructure design for commercial
>and private clouds based on XEN/XCP for a more robust storage
>infrastructure then is currently capable.
>
>IMHO, aside from the technical details, your basically telling all XEN
>infrastructure, too bad. no new s3 infrastructure for you, from my
>perspective this is both bad practice, and again, leaves XEN/XCP users
>wanting, and waiting again.....
>
>
>> On 5/21/13 5:59 PM, "Outback Dingo" <outbackdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Chip Childers
>> ><chip.child...@sungard.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> As discussed on another thread [1], we identified a bug
>> >> (CLOUDSTACK-2492) in the current 3.x system VMs, where the System VMs
>> >> are not configured to sync their time with either the host HV or an
>>NTP
>> >> service.  That bug affects the system VMs for all three primary HVs
>> >>(KVM,
>> >> Xen and vSphere).  Patches have been committed addressing vSphere and
>> >> KVM.  It appears that a correction for Xen would require the
>>re-build of
>> >> a system VM image and a full round of regression testing that image.
>> >>
>> >> Given that the discussion thread has not resulted in a consensus on
>>this
>> >> issue, I unfortunately believe that the only path forward is to call
>>for
>> >> a formal VOTE.
>> >>
>> >> Please respond with one of the following:
>> >>
>> >> +1: proceed with 4.1 without the Xen portion of CLOUDSTACK-2492 being
>> >> resolved
>> >> +0: don't care one way or the other
>> >> -1: do *not* proceed with any further 4.1 release candidates until
>> >> CLOUDSTACK-2492 has been fully resolved
>> >>
>> >>
>> >-1  do *not* proceed
>> >
>> >
>> >> -chip
>> >>
>> >> [1] http://markmail.org/message/rw7vciq3r33biasb
>> >>
>>
>>

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