According to our resident Xen expert, any PV kernel automatically syncs to
the hardware clock on dom0.

On 5/15/13 9:50 AM, "John Burwell" <jburw...@basho.com> wrote:

>Marcus,
>
>Agreed.  I think we need to add a set of hypervisor agnostic  time
>keeping guidelines to the documentation.  I just wanted to make sure
>there wasn't anything KVM specific that should be added as well.
>
>Thanks,
>-John
>
>On May 15, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just the general one that system vms sync their time to the
>> hypervisor, thus admins need to keep the hypervisor time correct. It
>> sounds like that will be the case for all three, if we can manage it.
>> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, John Burwell <jburw...@basho.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Marcus,
>>> 
>>> Excellent.  So, it looks like we have KVM resolved.  We just need to
>>>address Xen and VMWare now.  Do you think we need to any guidance to
>>>the documentation regarding KVM time keeping (e.g. environmental
>>>prerequisites)?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 15, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Marcus Sorensen <shadow...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> KVM LibvirtComputingResource has been patched in master. Tested on
>>>> master, 4.1, and both the acton and current system vm templates. This
>>>> patch makes system vms use 'kvmclock' for their timer, which is a vm
>>>> driver that gets it's time from the hypervisor. No change to the
>>>> system vm template itself.
>>>> 
>>>> bfc5887a1bf6b41e88dd7a8f9987fcee8d3d9175
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Chip Childers
>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:03:16AM -0400, John Burwell wrote:
>>>>>> Chip,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One other item I neglected to mention was that clock sync, at least
>>>>>>for Xen system VMs, wasn't an issue in the Jan-Feb timeframe.
>>>>>>Previously when I encountered these issues, syncing the host's clock
>>>>>>and rebuilding the system VMs addressed the issue.  I assumed, but
>>>>>>never verified, that the SSVM was syncing back against the host's
>>>>>>clock through hypervisor.  During my testing yesterday, aside from
>>>>>>hard setting the clock, I was unable to force clock sync on the SSVM.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -John
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that's our issue right now...  answering the question: Why is
>>>>> this only an issue now?  Did we just get lucky up to this point?
>>>>>Since
>>>>> the SSVMs are the same template as the timeframe you mention, I tend
>>>>>to
>>>>> believe that you / we were just lucky.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone else have thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Chip Childers
>>>>>><chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Starting a thread on this specific issue.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CLOUDSTACK-2492 was opened, which is basically the fact that the
>>>>>>>System
>>>>>>> VMs aren't syncing time to the host or to an NTP server.  The S3
>>>>>>> integration is broken because of this problem, and therefore could
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>> be considered a function available in 4.1 if we release as is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We need input from people that know about the current system VMs
>>>>>>>(the
>>>>>>> 3.x VMs), as well as the possibility of using the newer ones that
>>>>>>>we
>>>>>>> have been considering experimental for 4.1.0.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What should we do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -chip
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>

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