On May 14, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:59:14AM -0400, David Nalley wrote: >> Are you going to support upgrades from your Betas to release (and >> betaN to betaN+1)? >> If the answer is no, then there is no interest on my part. It's not >> better than us producing nightly builds, or highlighting jenkins >> builds. > > Perhaps doing a better job of highlighting nightly builds at key moments > is the right answer to the problem I was trying to solve (more user > testing of upgrades)? +1 on this, IMHO it's more of a documentation and delivery issue. If users knew where to find the latest rpm and debs they would test early. In the download section we could have a "nightly build" section And by the way we should send this type of thread to users... -sebastien > > The beta idea comes with some overhead, and perhaps that overhead isn't > worth the benefit (if there are other ways to achieve that goal). And > that's why I floated the idea... to get reactions. > >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Chip Childers >> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Daan Hoogland wrote: >>>> As a relative outsider; >>>> >>>> any branch that is not released yet is a beta release. Why make it more >>>> explicit. Wouldn't this add support burdon? Make a branch 'in beta' and >>>> appoint a guard to make sure no new feartures but only fixes go in (kind of >>>> how you are working right now) >>> >>> So we do that today. However, a "release" as a -beta will get more user >>> attention eariler in our release cycle (at least that's my theory). We >>> need that user attention to help us ensure that upgrades work. >>> >>>> >>>> Daan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2013, at 09:41 AM, Chip Childers wrote: >>>>>> As a way to get more user feedback on our major feature releases, what >>>>>> does everyone think about releasing one or two -beta releases for each >>>>>> major feature release? >>>>> >>>>> Yes to beta releases. I know that users could test at any time, but we >>>>> need explicit targets for users that say "now is a good time to test >>>>> this and give feedback." >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> jzb >>>>> -- >>>>> Joe Brockmeier >>>>> j...@zonker.net >>>>> Twitter: @jzb >>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ >>>>> >>
