On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 09:32:32PM -0700, Kelven Yang wrote:
> Murali,
> 
> I've updated the document to give more background details on the thought
> process. I'm sorry that I'm having hard time to describe it like other
> normal high-level FS, since the change is at architecture level, and to
> understand why we are doing this makes sense from conceptual level. The
> document is more organized as a thought process.

Actually Kelven, I appreciate reading the thought process on this one.
This is one of the more useful and interesting discussions of a change
like this.  It's a model that I'd suggest we use again for these types
of interesting architectural questions.  Well done.

I have one other suggested use case for you (and feel free to push back
on me if you don't think it's related):

Hosts placed in maintenance mode by the local element manager (ex:
vSphere Virtual Center) are detected as such by ACS, as well as the
reverse.  This is a very common thing for a operations team that may
have access to the underlying infra to do, and it would be great if it
was coordinated with ACS.

+1 from me on the rest of the proposal.

A strong +1 on the (as you say) long road forward to promote jobs from
implicit to explicit.  IMO, orchestration tasks themselves are basically
a combination of flow control and job control tasks for the developer.
The implicit nature of job control today is, IMO, why we have different
thread management implementations sprinkled around.

-chip

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