Hi Kai-Uwe,

There have been many and long discussions about this. It's a very complex topic. There is no common understanding of a principal, a user, a group, or a role and the metadata around them. There are repositories that don't even have access the user management and wouldn't be able to provide any information about a user beyond the user ID. In an enterprise environment you usually have a central user management system (e.g. a LDAP server) that least provides users and groups to clients. Defining all the concepts in the CMIS specification and a usable interface would take weeks, if not months (and would add quite a lot more pages to the spec). It was not worth delaying the CMIS specification for a few months because of this.

But feel free to join the CMIS Technical Committee and provide a proposal. The discussions about CMIS 2.0 are just starting.

- Florian


Hi Florian,

this is defiantly a weakness of CMIS in the area of DMS/Collaboration.
Having a protocol with a standardized way to access users and groups
would help repository vendors a lot  to support the CMIS protocol.
Users and groups are nearly the same important as documents and
folders.

Kai-Uwe


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Florian Müller [mailto:f...@apache.org]
Gesendet: Montag, 30. November 2015 17:44
An: dev@chemistry.apache.org
Cc: marcel.romagnu...@structr.com
Betreff: Re: Access to the Principal List in the ACL Editor

Hi Marcel,

CMIS deliberately doesn't provide any user management functionalities.
This includes listing users. There is no standardized way to get all
repository users.
Just getting all repository users is probably also not what you want.
Assume a repository with 100,000 users. It wouldn't be really helpful
to have them all in the drop-down box.


- Florian



Hello everyone,

my name is Marcel Romagnuolo and I am using the great OpenCMIS Server
Framework to build a CMIS server for the CMS "Structr".

I wanted to ask you how to get access to the Principal List in the ACL
Editor in the CMIS workbench (see:
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-28996249/ACLEditor.png.html ).
The Principal list only shows the Principals, who are currently listed
in the ACEs (+ "cmis:user" and probably the anonymous and anyone IDs).
The problem is, the ACEs don't always contain all Principals of the
repository.

I want to list all current Principals stored in the database of the
repository though. With that way the user can add easily new ACEs of
other principals.

Now I need to know where and how I can transfer the list of Principals
to the framework or if the framework manages it internally.

Thank you for reading and best regards, Marcel

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