“  I can only hope they understand and appreciate this *is* their work
being carried forward, and our legitimate reasons for the golang to python
rewrite (i.e. there's nothing against golang in the community). “

+1

Also, I would love to explore Maxim’s suggestion more. Option 1 still leads
to people installing more things and it may have negative effect if people
start opting out of running those checks


Thanks for looking into this, Maxim
On Fri, 2 May 2025 at 7:24, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> When approaching the code for the first time, I think option 2 will be
> the most consistent and have less friction since it won't be a
> one-off.  +1 from me.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brandon
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 5:47 AM Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > This can be done now using the following command (instead of `ant
> check`):
> >
> > .build/docker/check-code.sh
> >
> >
> > See readme under `.build/`
> >
> > But layering in the ability to do it with docker is opposed to requiring
> the use of docker.  i.e. I don't think we should make docker mandatory
> inside `ant check`.
> >
> >
> > There are two possible paths forward
> >  option 1) remove the auto-install, and just print the command the user
> needs to run to do the install, and/or how to skip that target.
> >  option 2) build on Maxim's contribution to rewrite it to
> python+virtualenv+jinja
> >
> >
> > With option (2) i feel it would be a shame that the original work in
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-website/tree/trunk/cqlprotodoc from
> our newly joined gocql community would be redone.   I can only hope they
> understand and appreciate this *is* their work being carried forward, and
> our legitimate reasons for the golang to python rewrite (i.e. there's
> nothing against golang in the community).  (I've cc'd them.)
> >
> > Otherwise, I'm entirely on the fence – all ears.  Slightly leaning
> towards option (1).
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 at 16:20, Joseph Lynch <joe.e.ly...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I also feel like this is what docker is for? It should be relatively
> straightforward to start from a golang Dockerfile, add the files you need,
> generate the docs and copy the result back out?
> >>
> >> -Joey
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 10:14 AM Chris Lohfink <clohfin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Cassandra's rube goldberg build system is so incredibly painful to
> integrate inside corporate CI environments already... maybe docker
> containers so you dont actually install random tools on the host computer
> it might not have privileges to do?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 6:13 AM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So while it would be nice to keep things such that someone just runs
> ant and gets everything built, given this does not seem to be a standard
> method of dealing with a go install in build scripts, I would suggest we
> stop doing it.  It looks to be very simple to install  Go, so maybe switch
> to telling someone how to install it if it is not found, as well as giving
> them the setting to disable that artifact.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 to Jeremiah's thoughts here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Passing thought - maybe introduce an "ant install-deps" target
> that'll install deps if not found?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025, at 7:30 AM, Maxim Muzafarov wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've prepared a python script that generates the same docs (no go
> >>>> dependency). I use the jinja2 dependency, not sure if it's optimal
> >>>> because I had to google how to use it though (also not sure if it has
> >>>> to be run in docker).
> >>>> I haven't tested the generated files with the website, but I've
> >>>> compared the results with the same files in the trunk, and they look
> >>>> similar (almost).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/compare/trunk...Mmuzaf:cassandra:generate-cqlprotodocs-python
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 at 10:10, Benedict <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > We should never download and install software via adhoc scripts
> without user consent. Was this ever discussed on this mailing list? If not,
> it’s a clear breach of policy (introducing a new dependency) and a severe
> one in my opinion, as it seems to introduce a new supply chain attack
> vector for all developers of Cassandra.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 29 Apr 2025, at 08:17, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 
> >>>> >
> >>>> >   .
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> But that doesn’t seem to be the case here, the script checks for
> arm vs amd64, Linux vs Mac, and then fetches and untars the go distro into
> tmp. There is no verification of the download.  The only check is if curl
> returned non 0.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks for catching this, the sha256 check should always have been
> in place.  Adding this is just a one-liner, so that alone shouldn't force
> the decision.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> It looks to be very simple to install  Go
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > It takes a bit to ensure all build and CI systems are updated, and
> we never catch everything (esp what's downstream).
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > While it's "simple", multiplied by everyone (and every system) it
> adds up to be a significant time demand.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Again, this too shouldn't be forcing the decision either way on
> what we want to do.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
>

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