IIUC there's no subproject involved here.  This is a separate repository
coming in, akin to cassandra-dtest (plus releases).

The question wrt replacing cassandra-stress was only thinking about
something down the road, to help smoke out stuff like compaction-stress.
No suggestion implied that easy-cass-stress should be moved in-tree.



On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 at 00:15, David Capwell <dcapw...@apple.com> wrote:

> I think we should just accept easy-cass-stress as a subproject and go
> from there.  Replacing stress can be handled separately and still has
> the large issue of reconciling the build systems that I raised in the
> beginning of this thread, but can be figured out eventually.
>
>
> I strongly agree with you here. The proposal is to just add the project
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2024, at 11:08 AM, C. Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net>
> wrote:
>
> Separating the two is completely fine yep -- just mentioned since
> deprecation/removal of stress also came up in the thread.
>
> Let's complete the donation. Just wanted to make sure we don't remove
> compaction-stress without a substitute.
>
> – Scott
>
> On Oct 14, 2024, at 10:46 AM, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think we should just accept easy-cass-stress as a subproject and go
> from there. Replacing stress can be handled separately and still has
> the large issue of reconciling the build systems that I raised in the
> beginning of this thread, but can be figured out eventually.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brandon
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:41 PM Jon Haddad <j...@rustyrazorblade.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Scott, I think introducing replacing compaction stress as a requirement
> here adds unnecessary friction to the donation process. I'd prefer to avoid
> coupling the two things. Unless you or someone else is volunteering to
> rewrite it I think this would effectively halt the donation, which I doubt
> is your intention. Can we do that as a separate thing?
>
> Regarding the name, I'm fine if we rename it. My tooling is easy-cass-*,
> and renaming it would make it clear that it's no longer my project, that's
> fine with me.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 8:20 PM <sc...@paradoxica.net> wrote:
>
>
> Supportive and would welcome the contribution as well. Jon, thanks for
> your willingness to offer this work to the Foundation.
>
> Also supportive of considering easy-cass-stress the successor to
> cassandra-stress.
>
> I’m fine with a directional goal of deprecating and removing
> cassandra-stress, but would like to make sure we have a successor to
> compaction-stress before doing so. I very rarely use cassandra-stress, but
> compaction-stress is helpful for generating a large corpus of SSTables and
> allowing compaction to churn through them. This is great for benching
> changes to the read path, compaction strategies, and for evaluation of
> hardware/VM/IO performance.
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/trunk/tools/stress/src/org/apache/cassandra/stress/CompactionStress.java
>
> Apologies if this exists in easy-cass-stress today - I may have missed it.
> Our own documentation even lacks a mention of compaction-stress. :)
>
> – Scott
>
> On Oct 13, 2024, at 8:01 PM, Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> * easy-cass-stress, sorry. Everything else holds.
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 9:00 PM Štefan Miklošovič <smikloso...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> What does "replacing" actually mean? If this tool is added to a separate
> repository, you mean like it would be put there under the "easy-cass-lab"
> name and all source code of cassandra-stress in the Cassandra repository
> would be removed? Are we going to deprecate what we have first or it is
> going to be a big bang?
>
> Should not be easy-cass-lab renamed to "cassandra-stress"? I do not think
> that "easy-cass-lab" should be the name of a repo we are going to use. For
> a custom tool living outside of Cassandra until now, sure, but the official
> stress tool should not be called "easy-cass-lab". People would be like ...
> what? IMHO we should rename it to cassandra-stress.
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 8:33 PM Brad <bscho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm +1 on replacing the existing cassandra-stress. My team did some work
> last Summer to remove Thrift related CLI args, but arg parsing alone is a
> 5K line mess. It's certainly not being well-maintained and could use a
> replacement.
>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2024 at 10:25 PM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> Unsolicited .02:
>
> - If this will eventually replace the in-tree cassandra-stress, does it
> warrant a CEP ? (i'm ok with skipping, though that step might have
> encouraged the questions above)
>
> I'm +1 to this replacing, -0 on requiring a CEP.
>
> Given the current tool is unmaintained and doesn't (to my knowledge) have
> a workflow-based usage paradigm that could be easily extended, seems like a
> clear win.
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2024, at 7:31 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote:
>
> reply below.
>
>
> I’m terms of next steps: Mick what do we need to do next? Figure out the
> answers to your questions re: getting contributor sign off?
>
>
>
> The process of donation is as follows… (feel free to correct me, or add
> anything)
>
>
> 1. General pre-agreement from the PMC that we'll take this project in, and
> how it will fit in.
>
> Some questions I (personally) have are,
> - Is the PMC ok with accepting a kotlin repository into the main part of
> the project ? (I assume so, kotlin == java, just asking the question. this
> was asked before, maybe i missed any response)
> - Who are the initial three PMC members that are volunteering to be active
> ? (Jon, Jordan, and ?)
> - How will the activity in this repository maintain visibility to the rest
> of the project ? (see recent discussions wrt sidecar's activity silo-ing)
> - Is the repo intending to adopt general project practices ? (e.g. release
> formalities, "patch by ; reviewed by for " commit messages, etc etc etc. if
> not, what is planned…)
> - If this will eventually replace the in-tree cassandra-stress, does it
> warrant a CEP ? (i'm ok with skipping, though that step might have
> encouraged the questions above)
>
>
> 2. IP Donation. Start filling out the IP Donation¹ form².
>
> Part of this process is to get approval to donate and an ICLA from each
> individual past contributor. In addition any company involved in past works
> must consent through either an SGA or their CCLA. In this case, all work
> before SHA 2d4542c27d3f1c0e24899c01247b9a8ee3c9a238 was copyrighted³ to The
> Last Pickle which is now owned by DataStax. Given that copyright was over
> an entire body of work I would say that the SGA⁴ is appropriate. (I'm happy
> to handle this.) We only need approval and ICLA's from contributors after⁵
> that SHA, as the previous copyright to The Last Pickle applied to all past
> contributions.
>
>
> 3. When the form, and all its steps are complete, raise a vote on
> dev@cassandra.a.o and general@incubator.a.o
>
>
> 4. When the vote passes, request ASF Infra (create INFRA jira ticket) to
> move the repository to github.com/apache/cassandra-stress (or whatever,
> but keep the cassandra- prefix IMO).
>
> --
> ¹) https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> ²)
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/cassandra-java-driver.xml
> ³) https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-stress/blob/master/LICENSE.txt#L1
> ⁴) https://www.apache.org/licenses/contributor-agreements.html
> ⁵)
> https://github.com/rustyrazorblade/easy-cass-stress/compare/2d4542c27d3f1c0e24899c01247b9a8ee3c9a238...main
>
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