It’s a 10 year old flaw in an 18 month old branch. Why does it need to go into 
4.1, it’s not a regression and it clearly breaks compatibility? 




> On Jul 30, 2024, at 8:52 AM, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> 
> This patch fixes a long standing issue that's the root cause of availability 
> failures.  Even though folks can specify a custom query handler with the -D 
> flag, the number of users impacted by this is going to be incredibly small.  
> On the other hand, the fix helps every single user of 4.1 that puts too much 
> pressure on the cluster, which happens fairly regularly.  
> 
> My POV is that it's a fairly weak argument that this is a public interface, 
> but I don't consider it worth debating whether it is or not, because even if 
> it is, this improves stability of the database for all users, so it's worth 
> going in.  Let's not be dogmatic about fixes that help 99% of users because 
> an incredibly small number that actually implement a custom query handler 
> will need to make a trivial update in order to use the latest 4.1.6 
> dependency.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:09 AM J. D. Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Given we allow a pluggable query handler implementation to be specified for 
>> the server with a -D during startup. So I would consider the query handler 
>> one of our public interfaces.
>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Alex Petrov <al...@coffeenco.de 
>>> <mailto:al...@coffeenco.de>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Tommy,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for spotting this and bringing this to community's attention.
>>> 
>>> I believe our primary interfaces are native and internode protocol, and CLI 
>>> tools. Most interfaces are used to to abstract implementations internally. 
>>> Few interfaces, such as DataType, Partitioner, and Triggers can be depended 
>>> upon by external tools using Cassandra as a library. There is no official 
>>> way to plug in a QueryHandler, so I did not consider it to be a part of our 
>>> public API. 
>>> 
>>> From [1]: 
>>> 
>>> > These considerations are especially important for public APIs, including 
>>> > CQL, virtual tables, JMX, yaml, system properties, etc. Any planned 
>>> > additions must be carefully considered in the context of any existing 
>>> > APIs. Where possible the approach of any existing API should be followed. 
>>> 
>>> Maybe we should have an exhaustive list of public APIs, and explicitly 
>>> mention that native and internode protocols are included, alongside with 
>>> nodetool command API and output, but also which classes/interfaces 
>>> specifically should be evolved with care.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> --Alex
>>> 
>>> [1] https://cassandra.apache.org/_/development/index.html
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024, at 10:56 AM, Tommy Stendahl via dev wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> There is a change in the QueryHandler interface introduced by 
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19534
>>>> 
>>>> Do we allow changes such changes between 4.1.5 and 4.1.6?
>>>> CASSANDRA-19534 looks like a very good change so maybe there is an 
>>>> exception in this case?
>>>> 
>>>> /Tommy
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Brandon Williams <brandonwilli...@apache.org 
>>>> <mailto:brandon%20williams%20%3cbrandonwilli...@apache.org%3e>>
>>>> Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org <mailto:dev@cassandra.apache.org>
>>>> To: dev <dev@cassandra.apache.org 
>>>> <mailto:dev%20%3c...@cassandra.apache.org%3e>>
>>>> Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Cassandra 4.1.6
>>>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 09:36:04 -0500
>>>> 
>>>> Proposing the test build of Cassandra 4.1.6 for release.
>>>> 
>>>> sha1: b662744af59f3a3dfbfeb7314e29fecb93abfd80
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Brandon
>>> 

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