I think most of the time people actually use netty _with_ native. This might 
have been introduced when we were tried to make shaded in-JVM dtest jars. If 
all tests are passing, and we actually do have a confirmtion that native Netty 
is being used, I would say +1 to remove `noNative`. 

Just to make sure though, did you have a chance to see if the upgrade tests 
also work fine?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023, at 1:20 PM, Miklosovic, Stefan wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> Currently, we are skipping the usage of native libraries in Netty as part of 
> testing here (1).
> 
> In 5.0 branch, we upgraded Netty to 4.1.96 and we brought all native 
> dependencies to the class path so they are there in runtime (x86, arm, mac).
> 
> I conducted few CI tests for 5.0+ and not having 
> "io.netty.transport.noNative" set to "true" introduces no errors. I think we 
> were just too motivated here to skip stuff left and right. Having this 
> property enabled seems to have no functional effect. Also, one negative 
> side-effect of having this property enabled is that it logs exceptions when 
> running in-jvm-dtests e.g. in IDEA and it pollutes the logs unnecessarily and 
> it is just a visual clutter to deal with every time. To silence this, I set 
> (2) so it skips the logic in (3) completely hence no un-necessary logging 
> will occure.
> 
> My question is whether we should not remove (4) in 5.0, that means that tests 
> will use native libraries too. That also means that we are running tests 
> closer to a production environment. I just do not see any reason why we 
> should skip this when all tests are just passing with it too with additional 
> benefit of not seeing an exception logged every time when testing it locally.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> (1) 
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/blob/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/cassandra/distributed/api/ICluster.java#L95-L102
> (2) 
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/trunk/test/distributed/org/apache/cassandra/distributed/impl/AbstractCluster.java#L196
> (3) 
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/trunk/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/service/NativeTransportService.java#L163
> (4) 
> https://github.com/apache/cassandra-in-jvm-dtest-api/blob/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/cassandra/distributed/api/ICluster.java#L101

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