Hi :
First of all, thank you very much for your work. I have a question: what is
your long-term evolution plan for this project? How to achieve long-term
continuous maintenance of this project? I have encountered some situations
where some people's work is related to a certain project, and then they may
have time to maintain, but once they change jobs, they may not have enough
time to do this.  Besides, can you share more about the code management
mechanism?

Jeff Widman <j...@jeffwidman.com> 于2023年7月7日周五 08:56写道:

> Myself and Brad Schoening currently maintain
> https://pypi.org/project/cqlsh/ which repackages CQLSH that ships with
> every Cassandra release.
>
> This way:
>
>    - anyone who wants a lightweight client to talk to a remote cassandra
>    can simply `pip install cqlsh` without having to download the full
>    cassandra source, unzip it, etc.
>    - it's very easy for folks to use it as scaffolding in their python
>    scripts/tooling since they can simply include it in the list of their
>    required dependencies.
>
> We currently handle the packaging by waiting for a release, then manually
> copy/pasting the code out of the cassandra source tree into
> https://github.com/jeffwidman/cqlsh which has some additional
> build/python package configuration files, then using standard
> python tooling to publish to PyPI.
>
> Given that our project is simply a build/packaging project, I wanted to
> start a conversation about upstreaming this into core Cassandra. I realize
> that Cassandra has no interest in maintaining lots of build targets... but
> given that cqlsh is written in Python and publishing to PyPI enables DBA's
> to share more complicated tooling built on top of it this seems like a
> natural fit for core cassandra rather than a standalone project.
>
> Goal:
> When a Cassandra release happens, the build/release process automatically
> publishes cqlsh to https://pypi.org/project/cqlsh/.
>
> Non-Goal: This is _not_ about having cassandra itself rely on PyPI. There
> was some initial chatter about that in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-18654, but that adds a
> lot of complexity, and I'm honestly not sure it's a great idea. Even if
> folks later want to go that route, the first hurdle is publishing to PyPI,
> so for now let's keep the scope of the discussion limited to treating PyPI
> purely as a release target, and not as an ingredient to a release.
>
> From an implementation perspective, this should be very straightforward.
> We don't have any differences from the CQLSH source that's in cassandra,
> instead we point folks to make changes to cqlsh in the Cassandra source. In
> fact we've made multiple contributions back to `cqlsh` ourselves and have
> drastically cleaned up the code:
> https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aapache%2Fcassandra%20is%3Apr%20author%3Ajeffwidman%20author%3Abschoening&type=pullrequests.
> So the only real change is adding the package config files and the build /
> release pipeline.
>
> We realize the Cassandra team isn't python/PyPI experts, so we'd be more
> than happy to help wire this up and maintain it. I am also a maintainer of
> kazoo and kafka-python which are both popular python clients for other
> distributed databases. So I'm very familiar with open source, python, and
> distributed databases.
>
> My one hesitation around this discussion is that I'm a little concerned
> that we might lose the nimbleness we've currently got from having a
> separate project. Ie, if something is screwed up on PyPI / the build
> process, we can quickly get it fixed and get a new release out so that
> users aren't blocked. Would it be possible as part of this process to
> continue that myself/Brad had commit rights to the build process for PyPI?
> To be clear, I'm not asking for commit rights to the Java code or anything
> outside of Python, I just want to be sure that if we go to the trouble of
> working with you to upstream this that there's a commitment from Cassandra
> to keeping this build working, or to letting us be able to fix the build.
> Otherwise there's no point in upstreaming it only for it to go unmaintained
> leaving us looking on helplessly from the sidelines. I'm very flexible here
> on the solution.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
>
> *Jeff Widman*
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