So revised proposal: On Release Lifecycle cwiki page: - Ensure we have parity on jobs run between circle and asf-ci - Allow usage of circleci as gatekeeper for releases. 1 green run -> beta, 3 green runs consecutive -> ga - No new consistent regressions on CI for asf compared to prior branches - Explicitly do not consider ci-cassandra asf flaky tests as release blockers
Changes to codify into documentation: - On patch before commit, multiplex @500 all new tests, changed tests, or expected to be impacted tests ("expected to be impacted" piece pending multi-class multiplexing support): - Add support for multi-class specification in multiplexer and document Add informal project commitment during next major release lifecycle to continue working on bringing asf ci-cassandra up to where it can be formal gatekeeper for release. On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, at 10:13 AM, Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote: > If we talk blockers nothing more than ensuring we see all tests we want > pre-release, IMHO. > The other points sound to me like future important improvements that will > help us significantly in the flaky test fight. > > On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 at 10:08, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: >> __ >> I'm receptive to that but I wouldn't gate our ability to get 4.1 out the >> door based on circle on that. Honestly probably only need to have the parity >> of coverage be the blocker for its use in retrospect. >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, at 1:32 AM, Berenguer Blasi wrote: >>> I would add an option for generate.sh to detect all changed *Test.java >>> files, that would be handy imo. >>> >>> On 28/9/22 4:29, Josh McKenzie wrote: >>>> So: >>>> 1. 500 iterations on multiplexer >>>> 2. Augmenting generate.sh to allow providing multiple class names and >>>> generating a single config that'll multiplex all the tests provided >>>> 3. Test parity / pre-release config added on circleci (see >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-17930), specifically >>>> dtest-large, dtest-offheap, test-large-novnode >>>> If we get the above 3, are we at a place where we're good to consider >>>> vetting releases on circleci for beta / rc / ga? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 11:28 AM, Ekaterina Dimitrova wrote: >>>>>> “I have plans on modifying the multiplexer to allow specifying a list of >>>>>> classes per test target, so we don't have to needlessly suffer with this” >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That would be great, I was thinking of that the other day too. With that >>>>>> said I’ll be happy to support you in that effort too :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 at 11:18, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have plans on modifying the multiplexer to allow specifying a list of >>>>>>> classes per test target, so we don't have to needlessly suffer with this >>>>>> This sounds integral to us multiplexing tests on large diffs whether we >>>>>> go with circle for releases or not and would be a great addition! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 6:19 AM, Andrés de la Peña wrote: >>>>>>>> 250 iterations isn't enough; I use 500 as a low water mark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree that 500 iterations would be a reasonable minimum. We have seen >>>>>>> flaky unit tests requiring far more iterations, but that's not very >>>>>>> common. We could use to 500 iterations as default, and discretionary >>>>>>> use a higher limit in tests that are quick and might be prone to >>>>>>> concurrency issues. I can change the defaults on CirceCI config file if >>>>>>> we agree to a new limit, the current default of 100 iterations is quite >>>>>>> arbitrary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The test multiplexer allows to either run test individual test methods >>>>>>> or entire classes. It is quite frequent to see tests methods that pass >>>>>>> individually but fail when they are run together with the other tests >>>>>>> in the same class. Because of this, I think that we should always run >>>>>>> entire classes when repeating new or modified tests. The only exception >>>>>>> to this would be Python dtests, which usually are more resource >>>>>>> intensive and not so prone to that type of issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For CI on a patch, run the pre-commit suite and also run multiplexer >>>>>>>> with 250 runs on new, changed, or related tests to ensure not flaky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The multiplexer only allows to run a single test class per push. This >>>>>>> is ok for fixing existing flakies (its original purpose), and for most >>>>>>> minor changes, but it can be quite inconvenient for testing large >>>>>>> patches that add or modify many tests. For example, the patch for >>>>>>> CEP-19 directly modifies 31 test classes, which means 31 CircleCI >>>>>>> config pushes. This number can be somewhat reduced with some wildcards >>>>>>> on the class names, but the process is still quite inconvenient. I >>>>>>> guess that other large patches will find the same problem. I have plans >>>>>>> on modifying the multiplexer to allow specifying a list of classes per >>>>>>> test target, so we don't have to needlessly suffer with this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 22:44, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 1:31 PM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 250 iterations isn't enough; I use 500 as a low water mark. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Say more here. I originally had it at 500 but neither Mick nor I >>>>>>>> > knew why and figured we could suss this out on this thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've seen flakies that passed with less later exhibit at that point. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > This is also assuming that circle and ASF CI run the same tests, >>>>>>>> > which >>>>>>>> > is not entirely true. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > +1: we need to fix this. My intuition is the path to getting >>>>>>>> > circle-ci in parity on coverage is a shorter path than getting ASF >>>>>>>> > CI to 3 green runs for GA. That consistent w/your perception as well >>>>>>>> > or do you disagree? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree that bringing parity to the coverage will be the shorter path. >>>>>> >>>> >>