Hi Amit,

That's some brilliant tests you have done there. It shows that the compaction throughput not only can be a bottleneck on the speed of insert operations, but it can also stress the JVM garbage collector. As a result of GC pressure, it can cause other things, such as insert, to fail.

Your last statement is correct. The commit log change can be beneficial for atypical workloads where large volume of data is getting inserted and then expired soon, for example when using the TimeWindowCompactionStrategy with short TTL. But I must point out that this kind of atypical usage is often an anti-pattern in Cassandra, as Cassandra is a database, not a queue or cache system.

This, however, is not saying the commit log change should not be introduced. As others have pointed out, it's down to a balancing act between the cost and benefit, and it will depend on the code complexity and the effect it has on typical workload, such as CPU and JVM heap usage. After all, we should prioritise the performance and reliability of typical usage before optimising for atypical use cases.

Best,
Bowen

On 26/07/2022 12:41, Pawar, Amit wrote:

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Hi Bowen,

Thanks for the reply and it helped to identify the failure point. Tested compaction throughput with different values and threads active in compaction reports “java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Map failed” error with 1024 MB/s earlier compared to other values. This shows with lower throughput such issues are going to come up not immediately but in days or weeks. Test results are given below.

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| Records    | Compaction Throughput | 5 large files In GB | Disk usage (GB) ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 2000000000 | 8                     | Not collected | 500             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 2000000000 | 16                    | Not collected | 500             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 64                    | 3.5,3.5,3.5,3.5,3.5 | 273             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 128                   | 3.5, 3.9,4.9,8.0, 15 | 287             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 256                   | 11,11,12,16,20 | 359             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 512                   | 14,19,23,27,28 | 469             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 1024                  | 14,18,23,27,28 | 458             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| 900000000  | 0                     | 6.9,6.9,7.0,28,28 | 223             ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

|| |                       | |                 ||

|+------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------------+|

Issues observed with increasing compaction throughput.

 1. Out of memory errors
 2. Scores reduces as throughput increased
 3. Files size grows as throughput increased
 4. Insert failures are noticed

After this testing, I feel that this change is beneficial for workloads where data is not kept/left on nodes for too long. With lower throughput large system can ingest more data. Does it make sense ?

Thanks,

Amit

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Hi Amit,

The compaction bottleneck is not an instantly visible limitation. It in effect limits the total size of writes over a fairly long period of time, because compaction is asynchronous and can be queued. That means if compaction can't keep up with the writes, they will be queued, and Cassandra remains fully functional until hitting the "too many open files" error or the filesystem runs out of free inodes. This can happen over many days or even weeks.

For the purpose of benchmarking, you may prefer to measure the max concurrent compaction throughput, instead of actually waiting for that breaking moment. The max write throughput is a fraction of the max concurrent compaction throughput, usually by a factor of 5 or more for a non-trivial sized table, depending on the table size in bytes. Search for "STCS write amplification" to understand why that's the case. That means if you've measured the max concurrent compaction throughput is 1GB/s, your average max insertion speed over a period of time is probably less than 200MB/s.

If you really decide to test the compaction bottleneck in action, it's better to measure the table size in bytes on disk, rather than the number of records. That's because not only the record count, but also the size of partitions and compression ratio, all have meaningful effect on the compaction workload. It's also worth mentioning that if using the STCS strategy, which is more suitable for write heavy workload, you may want to keep an eye on the SSTable data file size distribution. Initially the compaction may not involve any large SSTable data file, so it won't be a bottleneck at all. As more bigger SSTable data files are created over time, they will get involved in compactions more and more frequently. The bottleneck will only shows up (i.e. become problematic) when there's sufficient number of large SSTable data files involved in multiple concurrent compactions, occupying all available compactors and blocks (queuing) a larger number of compactions involving smaller SSTable data files.


Regards,

Bowen

On 22/07/2022 11:19, Pawar, Amit wrote:

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    Thank you Bowen for your reply. Took some time to respond due to
    testing issue.

    I tested again multi-threaded feature with number of records from
    260 million to 2 billion and still improvement is seen around 80%
    of Ramdisk score. It is still possible that compaction can become
    new bottleneck and could be new opportunity to fix it. I am newbie
    here and possible that I failed to understand your suggestion
    completely.  At-least with this testing multi-threading benefit is
    reflecting in score.

    Do you think multi-threading is good to have now ? else please
    suggest if I need to test further.

    Thanks,

    Amit

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    From my past experience, the bottleneck for insert heavy workload
    is likely to be compaction, not commit log. You initially may see
    commit log as the bottleneck when the table size is relatively
    small, but as the table size increases, compaction will likely
    take its place and become the new bottleneck.

    On 20/07/2022 11:11, Pawar, Amit wrote:

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        Hi all,

        (My previous mail is not appearing in mailing list and
        resending again after 2 days)

        Myself Amit and working at AMD Bangalore, India. I am new to
        Cassandra and need to do Cassandra testing on large core
        systems. Usually should test on multi-nodes Cassandra but
        started with Single node testing to understand how Cassandra
        scales with increasing core counts.

        Test details:

        Operation: Insert > 90% (insert heavy)

        Operation: Scan < 10%

        Cassandra: 3.11.10 and trunk

        Benchmark: TPCx-IOT (similar to YCSB)

        Results shows scaling is poor beyond 16 cores and it is almost
        linear. Following settings are the common settings helped to
        get the better scores.

        1.Memtable heap allocation: offheap_objects

        2.memtable_flush_writers > 4

        3.Java heap: 8-32GB with survivor ratio tuning

        4.Separate storage space for Commitlog and Data.

        Many online blogs suggest to add new Cassandra node when
        unable to take high writes. But with large systems, high
        writes should be easily taken due to many cores. Need was to
        improve the scaling with more cores so this suggestion didn’t
        help. After many rounds of testing it was observed that
        current implementation uses single thread for Commitlog
        syncing activity. Commitlog files are mapped using mmap system
        call and changes are written with msync. Periodic syncing with
        JVisualvm tool shows

        1.thread is not 100% busy with Ramdisk usage for Commitlog
        storage and scaling improved on large systems. Ramdisk scores
        > 2 X NVME score.

        2.thread becomes 100% busy with NVME usage for Commiglog and
        score does not improve much beyond 16 cores.

        Linux kernel uses 4K pages for mapped memory with mmap system
        call. So, to understand this further, disk I/O testing was
        done using FIO tool and results shows

        1.NVME 4K random R/W throughput is very less with single
        thread and it improves with multi-threaded.

        2.Ramdisk 4K random R/W throughput is good with single thread
        only and also better with multi-threaded

        Based on the FIO test results following two ideas were tested
        for Commitlog files with Cassandra-3.1.10 sources.

        1.Enable Direct IO feature for Commitlog files (similar to
        [CASSANDRA-14466] Enable Direct I/O - ASF JIRA (apache.org)
        
<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fissues.apache.org%2Fjira%2Fbrowse%2FCASSANDRA-14466&data=05%7C01%7CAmit.Pawar%40amd.com%7C830520176c7a4657417b08da6bd26c94%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637940848767120963%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wxXA9jVlNsqbOyBBaX3fAxcPY%2F%2BN1Yxou%2F5GlBsMf64%3D&reserved=0>
        )

        2.Enable Multi-threaded syncing for Commitlog files.

        First one need to retest. Interestingly second one helped to
        improve the score with “NVME” disk. NVME disk configuration
        score is almost within 80-90% of ramdisk and 2 times of single
        threaded implementation. Multithreading enabled by adding new
        thread pool in “AbstractCommitLogSegmentManager” class and
        changed syncing thread as manager thread for this new thread
        pool to take care synchronization. Only tested with
        Cassandra-3.11.10 and needs complete testing but this change
        is working in my test environment. Tried these few experiments
        so that I could discuss here and seek your valuable
        suggestions to identify the right fix for insert heavy workloads.

        1.Is it good idea to convert single threaded syncing to
        multi-threading implementation to improve the disk IO?

        2.Direct I/O throughput is high with single thread and best
        fit for Commitlog case due to file size. This will improve
        writes on small to large systems. Good to bring this support
        for Commitlog files?

        Please suggest.

        Thanks,

        Amit Pawar

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