Fully agree we should add a collision check but I don't understand why this
optional feature is bad/dangerous after we add this ability? Can you
provide an example of a potential issue?

I don't expect this property to be used by most users, except power users
which normally know what they're doing. We have tons of potentially
dangerous knobs and I don't get why this particular one is any different.

Em qua., 27 de abr. de 2022 às 14:05, Sam Tunnicliffe <s...@beobal.com>
escreveu:

> CASSANDRA-14582 added support for users to supply an arbitrary value for
> HOST_ID when booting a new node. IMO it's a pretty bad and potentially
> dangerous idea for the unique identifier to be settable in this way. Hint
> delivery is already routed by host id and there have been several JIRAs
> which have called for more fundamental reworking of cluster metadata using
> permanent opaque identifiers rather than IPs to address members
> (CASSANDRA-11559, CASSANDRA-15823, etc). Using host id for anything like
> that in future would be made much more difficult with this capability.
>
> Aside from the longer term implications, it seems that the feature as
> currently implemented has some issues. There doesn't appear to be any
> validation that a supplied host id isn't already in use by a live node, so
> it's trivial to trigger a collision which can lead to divergent ring views
> between nodes and ultimately in data loss.
>
> Although this landed in trunk almost 11 months ago it hasn't been included
> in a release yet, so I propose we revert it before cutting 4.1 (although,
> as the revert isn't a feature, I guess technically we could do that during
> the freeze). I'm not completely convinced about encoding metadata into host
> ids, but even if that is something we want to do, I don't think it's wise
> to completely remove control over the identifiers from Cassandra itself.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> On 25 Apr 2022, at 16:17, Ekaterina Dimitrova <e.dimitr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Kind reminder that 1st May is around the corner. What does this mean? Our
> code freeze starts on 1st May and my understanding is that only bug fixing
> can go into the 4.1 branch.
> If anyone has anything to raise, now is a good time. On my end I saw a few
> things for this week that we should probably put to completion:
> - CASSANDRA-17571 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-17571> -
> I have to close this one, it is in progress; new types in Config is good to
> be in before the freeze I guess, even if It is not yaml change
> - CASSANDRA-17557 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-17557> -
> we need to take care of the parameters so we don't have to deprecate and
>  support anything not actually needed; I think it is probably more or less
> done
> - CASSANDRA-17379 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-17379> -
> adds a new flag around config; I think it is more or less done, depends on
> final CI and second reviewer maybe needed?
> - JMX intercept Cassandra exceptions, I think David mentioned a rebase was
> needed
> - CASSANDRA-17212 - The config property minimum_keyspace_rf and their
> nodetool getter and setter commands are new to 4.1. They are suitable to be
> ported to guardrails, and if we do this port in 4.1 we won't need to
> deprecate that property and nodetool commands in the next release, just one
> release after their introduction.
>
> I guess the failing tests we see could be fixed after the freeze but no
> API changes.
>
> Thanks everyone for all the hard work. Please don’t hesitate to raise the
> flag with questions, concerns or any help needed.
>
> Best regards,
> Ekaterina
>
>
>

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