On the onboarding new contributors I can definitely say that I agree with
the earlier comment about 'getting surprised to see ant' (having worked on
Maven and Gradle for the last 10+ years). Also, I would recount a specific
challenge I had with making the 'examples' folder as a sub-module in
IntelliJ. Not sure if it was Maven, it would simplify anything because I
felt it was partly IntelliJ's caching that gave me a lot of trouble until I
figured out how to make it work predictably for the sub-module. Without
that setup I could not run unit tests from the examples/ssl-factory folder
from the IntelliJ.

Agree that we should prepare pros/cons and have a choice vote.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 8:05 AM bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org>
wrote:

> +1
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> If we can get a pros/cons list we can have a ranked choice vote, move
> forwards, and maybe agree not to revisit this for a few years at least?
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> *From: *Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 13:59
> *To: *dev <dev@cassandra.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Build tool
>
> Could someone take on clearly enumerating the pros and cons of ant vs.
> maven?
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> Without clarity this is going to keep stagnating as a war of
> unsubstantiated opinions and fizzle out like it has so many times in the
> past.
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> I'd like to see it either change or the topic be put to rest. :)
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> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 8:38 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:19 AM bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > It pretends to be Maven for dependency management, but this is a small
> part of the job of a build file.
>
> It doesn't pretend, it actually uses part of the Maven project to
> accomplish its goals.  It's half the Maven it could be.
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