On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 9:21 AM bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org> wrote:
> The goals of the CEP are stated clearly, and these were the goals we had > going into the (multi-month) research project we undertook before proposing > this CEP. These goals are necessarily value judgements, so we cannot expect > that everyone will agree that they are optimal. > Right, so I'm saying that this is exactly the most important thing to get consensus on, and creating a CEP for a protocol to achieve goals that you have not discussed with the community is the CEP equivalent of dropping a patch on Jira without discussing its goals either. That's why our conversations haven't gone anywhere, because I keep saying "we need discuss the goals and tradeoffs", and I'll give an example of what I mean, and you keep addressing the examples (sometimes very shallowly, "it would be possible to X" or "Y could be done as an optimization") while ignoring the request to open a discussion around the big picture.
