HI,

> The notion that these jars are "not open source" and must therefor not be 
> used in the way they are intended is a preposterous stance

I suggest you read the whole thread. The outcome was that it's OK to put jars 
in version control but not in a source release.

This has been discussed several times on the incubator list and elsewhere. What 
most projects do is provide a script that a user can run to download the needed 
bits.

I recall Roy having something to say it a while ago:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0d6952401efbd72efbeafc86ebabbf7267f6c9d2d59f32dd93b7d4db%401332868587%40%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Thanks,
Justin

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