> > be very practical and codify our existing agreements > discussed on the mentioned threads before lifting the freeze
Ah. My thinking was talking about when to lift the freeze was moot if we hadn't branched, and the agreed upon release lifecycle is pretty clear that we don't branch until GA. Am I misunderstanding the relationship there? On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:56 AM Paulo Motta <pauloricard...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That said, I think freezing feature contribution and not branching until > GA like we've newly done with 4.0 is bad for the health of the project > > +1. I think the freeze and branching until GA was atypical and unique to > 4.0 and won't be repeated in the upcoming releases. I agree with Sumanth's > proposal on the release doc that branching should not be tied to a specific > release phase but decided independently by the community during the release > process (as it's being done now). > > > I think we should probably discuss the release process separately and > revise our agreements and process based on learnings from this release. > > Just to clarify: I'm not proposing we make a lengthy revision of the > release process, but be very practical and codify our existing agreements > discussed on the mentioned threads before lifting the freeze and discuss > any remaining concerns (just to ensure we will not leave this for later and > have clear expectations for the next release cycles). > > Em qui., 25 de mar. de 2021 às 11:10, Joshua McKenzie < > jmcken...@apache.org> > escreveu: > > > The current "Release Lifecycle" wiki doc speaks to when we branch: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle > > > > Specifically under "General Availability (GA)": > > > > - A new branch is created for the release with the new major version, > > limiting any new feature addition to the new release branch, with new > > feature development will continue to happen only on trunk. > > > > > > That said, I think freezing feature contribution and not branching until > GA > > like we've newly done with 4.0 is bad for the health of the project. > Also, > > I don't think the project can survive another release cycle as long and > as > > exclusionary as the 4.0 release has been (judging by declining > contribution > > volume, declining external ticket creation and interactions, and > db-engine > > indicators of popularity declining), so I think we should probably > discuss > > the release process separately and revise our agreements and process > based > > on learnings from this release. > > > > Just my .02 though as I'm no longer actively involved. > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 9:15 AM Paulo Motta <pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I agree we should start considering branching 4.0 and unfreezing soon, > > but > > > before I think we should: > > > - Close the loop on the agreed points of the "releases after 4.0" [1] > and > > > "project roadmap" [2] threads and document the new release guidelines > > > post-4.0 so we have a good starting point. > > > - Revisit the previous discussions on unfreezing 4.0 and address any > > > remaining concerns that may still be open. > > > > > > Looking forward to this exciting milestone! > > > > > > [1] - > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cassandra-dev/202101.mbox/%3ccabxe4tqrft9yn9tscd0jcs4qxe4vfeezqqtkbcw16d+3rgg...@mail.gmail.com%3e > > > [2] - > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cassandra-dev/202103.mbox/%3c050276ba-d9da-40a9-9eb3-c0087b45b...@apache.org%3e > > > > > > > > > Em qui., 25 de mar. de 2021 às 09:34, Ekaterina Dimitrova < > > > e.dimitr...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > > > > Hi Benjamin, > > > > Thanks for bringing it up. I support the idea. > > > > I saw more activity from new contributors lately, also Google Summer > of > > > > Code is around the corner. Plus I feel it gives a very positive > signal > > > > about the state of the project. > > > > The amount of tickets before GA is really quite low. CI is almost > > > green, I > > > > almost haven’t seen a test failure because of product problem but > > mostly > > > > tests issues. We are so close, it is very exciting time for this > > project. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ekaterina > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 at 8:25, Benjamin Lerer <ble...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > > > > > We are now extremely close to releasing 4.0-RC, the number of > tickets > > > > left > > > > > in the 4.0-GA scope is 20 and only 3 of them are not assigned yet. > By > > > > > consequence, I was wondering if it would make sense to create a 4.0 > > > > branch > > > > > and unfreeze trunk when we release RC. > > > > > > > > > > The advantages I see are that it will highly increase the scope of > > > > tickets > > > > > on which newcomers can work on and will allow people to move > smoothly > > > to > > > > > 4.0.X tickets when there are no more available tickets in the 4.0 > GA > > > > scope. > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > Benjamin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >