FWIW, +1 to Alex's proposal, and I'll try to contribute
around CASSANDRA-16262.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 4:20 AM Benjamin Lerer <benjamin.le...@datastax.com>
wrote:

> Based on the discussions I had with Alex, it is clear that Harry has been a
> really valuable tool to find some issues that we would have otherwise
> missed.
> Part of the problem with CASSANDRA-16262 was in my opinion that we lacked
> experience with the tool itself and did not know where to start.
> Alex nicely proposed to take over the ownership of the ticket. Harry
> apparently has nearly all the functionality required to accomplish this.
> That sounds to me like a great proposal. :-)
> Thanks for that Alex
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:39 AM Oleksandr Petrov <
> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In the absence of a fuzz testing tool I would probably support excluding
> > this ticket from GA, but speaking from recent experience it feels to me
> > that fixing bugs is blocking us from further fuzz testing more than fuzz
> > testing is blocking us from releases. In other words, you run a fuzz test
> > for a relatively short amount of time, and then spend several days to fix
> > and merge the issue that was triggered to unblock further testing.
> >
> >
> > In a relatively short amount of time, we've been able to hit at least
> these
> > four issues:
> >
> >    - Group By in-jvm paging issue:
> >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16427
> >    - Group By breaks range tombstone closer:
> >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16431
> >    - Reverse iteration + paging:
> >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16435
> >    - NPE in Slice#make on RT + partition deletion reconciliation:
> >    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16453
> >
> > I think we would've hit the first one without a fuzz testing tool, since
> it
> > was a relatively obvious one, but looking at the output from Harry it was
> > immediately clear what's going on, so I still consider its output useful.
> > There was one more issue that was discovered independently, but was also
> > caught with a fuzz test tool later. Its prior discovery with a test tool
> > was blocked by the fix of an issue that was occurring more frequently.
> >
> > Maybe it's ok to release a release candidate, but we probably should
> still
> > wait a bit to cut a final release. WDYT?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:33 PM Benjamin Lerer <
> benjamin.le...@datastax.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It seems to me that CASSANDRA-16180
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16180>,
> CASSANDRA-16262
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16262> and
> > > CASSANDRA-16181
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16181> already highly
> > > improve the test coverage on distributed read and write paths.
> > > CASSANDRA-16262 sounds like a nice to have but should probably not
> block
> > > 4.0 GA
> > > I am +1 to push it out of 4.0-rc.
> > >
> > > Thanks to you and Andres for all the work you contributed on
> > > CASSANDRA-15579
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15579>. It is some
> > great
> > > work :-)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 6:45 PM Caleb Rackliffe <
> > calebrackli...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to have a quick conversation about CASSANDRA-16262
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16262>. As I
> > mentioned
> > > in
> > > > the Jira
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-16262?focusedCommentId=17273891&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-17273891
> > > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > *"I was chatting w/ Andres de la Peña
> > > > <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=adelapena
> > >
> > > > the
> > > > other day, and it feels like there's an argument for allowing 4.0 to
> > > > release without this work being complete. We've certainly come a long
> > way
> > > > w/ CASSANDRA-15579
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15579> already,
> > filling
> > > > in
> > > > a number of gaps that existed."*
> > > >
> > > > Any strong opinions out there?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > alex p
> >
>

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