My suggestion for "supported" upgrade paths would be; 2.1 (2.2) -> 3.0 -> 4.0 2.1 (2.2) -> 3.11 -> 4.0
and drop support for 3.0 -> 3.11 when we release 4.0 /Marcus On 9 October 2020 at 16:12:12, Joshua McKenzie (jmcken...@apache.org) wrote: > Some data that I believe is relevant here. > > Numerically it's safe to assume there's over 10,000 ASF C* clusters out in > the world (5,500 in China alone). In surveys (both informal polling and > primary research), at least 1/3rd of folks are running the 3.X latest if I > recall correctly. > > Basic conclusions we can draw from these data points: > 1) There are thousands of clusters running some form of post 3.0, so we can > expect it to be *stable enough to upgrade through* > 2) We have to support at least 3.11 → 4.0 > > If 1/3rd of our users are running 2.1, 1/3rd 3.0, and 1/3rd 3.11 > (hand-waving, probably more in the 25 vs. 40 etc but splitting hairs), > there's clearly a significant value-add in usability of skipping majors > (3.0->4.0). Depending on how we define "done" and "supported" for upgrade > testing, this will represent a significant development burden. > > From a *functional MVP* perspective on what upgrade paths we need to > support, the absolute minimum would be 2.1 → 3.0 → 3.11 → 4.0 > > If anyone wants to step in and officially support the 3.0 → 4.0 line, > that's fantastic both for the project community and for users. But as far > as basic table stakes, I can't think of a logical reason 3.0 → 4.0 as an > upgraded path should be considered a blocker for releasing 4.0 GA. > > > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 9:53 AM, Mick Semb Wever wrote: > > > At The Last Pickle we have always recommended avoiding 3.0, including > > upgrading from 2.2 directly to 3.11. > > We (now DataStax) will continue to recommend that folk upgrade to the > > latest 3.11 before upgrading to 4.0. > > > > To clarify that^, if it wasn't obvious, I wasn't making a statement about > > DataStax at at large, but about those of us at TLP and now the team > > providing the consulting for Apache Cassandra from DataStax. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org