Considering the latest comments on the ticket from today, I don’t see this ticket anymore as a beta blocker. Also, what is the plan for cutting beta branch? I am still learning the Apache/C* way so excuse me if I missed something. Looking at the Lifecycle document, I see a point only about GA major version branch. My understanding is that we are already in freeze for big changes. When would be the right time for creating a beta branch? Something more than closing the last beta blockers tickets? Thanks Ekaterina
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 14:25, Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> wrote: > I don't think we really reached a consensus on this one. Some folks > certainly vocalized a preference for not removing in 4.0, but I read it as > debate still ongoing then losing momentum. Specifically thinking of > Sylvain's comment here that kind of dead-ended: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13994?focusedCommentId=17138278&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17138278 > > fwiw I'm personally fine w/us deferring this until after 4.0 assuming we > cut a branch for beta so changes like this don't bitrot. > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:03 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I might be missing some context here but I thought we did not intend to > > remove compact storage for 4.0 as it was deemed to be too invasive at > this > > point. Did that decision change? > > > > Dinesh > > > > > On Jun 24, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Ekaterina Dimitrova < > > ekaterina.dimitr...@datastax.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > As we talked yesterday during our meeting, I am bringing back to the > > table > > > CASSANDRA-13994 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13994 > >. > > > Description > > > > > > 4.0 comes without thrift (after CASSANDRA-11115 > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11115>) and COMPACT > > > STORAGE (after CASSANDRA-10857 > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-10857>), and since > > Compact > > > Storage flags are now disabled, all of the related functionality is > > useless. > > > > > > There are still some things to consider: > > > 1. One of the system tables (built indexes) was compact. For now, we > just > > > added value column to it to make sure it's backwards-compatible, but we > > > might want to make sure it's just a "normal" table and doesn't have > > > redundant columns. > > > 2. Compact Tables were building indexes in KEYS mode. Removing it is > > > trivial, but this would mean that all built indexes will be defunct. We > > > could log a warning for now and ask users to migrate off those for now > > and > > > completely remove it from future releases. It's just a couple of > classes > > > though. > > > > > > > > > Thank you Sylvain for the first pass of review. > > > > > > An option, as also Sylvain suggested, is to split the ticket in two > > tickets > > > - clean the Compact storage dead code in this one and open a new ticket > > to > > > handle the indexes. > > > > > > I am pasting here the latest comment, hopefully this makes it easier > for > > > the audience: > > > > > > I have made a first pass of review and offered a few remarks above. > > > > > > But I think this ticket is hanging up on us deciding whether removing > the > > > KEYS 2ndary index code is ok or not. And this yields, to me, the > question > > > of what is the upgrade path to 4.0 for users that still have KEYS index > > > (which, reminder, could only be created with Thrift, but could *used* > > with > > > CQL and thus still be around). > > > > > > Because, while I haven't tested this myself, I suspect we have a hole > > here. > > > > > > Namely, KEYS index were compact tables, and 4.0 does not start if there > > is > > > still compact tables. And while for user tables, user are asked to use > > DROP > > > COMPACT STORAGE before upgrading, this cannot be done on KEYS index > > (there > > > is just no syntax to do it), so unless there is code I'm not aware of > > (and > > > please, someone correct me if I'm wrong), I don't think user can > upgrade > > to > > > 4.0 at all if they still have KEYS index. They'd have to drop those > index > > > first. > > > > > > So If I'm right here, this technically mean removing the KEYS index > code > > in > > > 4.0 is fine, since you cannot upgrade in the first place if you have > KEYS > > > index. But the more important question for 4.0 imo is what is the > upgrade > > > path for users if they have a KEYS index in 3.X? > > > > > > Currently (without code changes), the only available option I can think > > of > > > is that before upgrade to 4.0, users would have to 1) drop their KEYS > > index > > > and then 2) re-create a "normal" (non-KEYS) equivalent index. > > > > > > Are we comfortable with that being the upgrade path for KEYS index? > > > > > > Personally, I'm not sure I am because this is not a seamless upgrade, > as > > > between the 1) and 2) above, there is a window where there is no > > accessible > > > index, so if the user application rely on it, it means a period of > > downtime > > > for the application to perform the upgrade. However, if we want a more > > > seamless upgrade, we need to figure something out, and that probably > > > involve non trivial amounts of code and testing. And, playing devil's > > > advocate, KEYS index being so old, maybe nobody that plans to upgrade > to > > > 4.0 have them anymore, and maybe it's not worth bothering? > > > > > > So I could use others opinions here. > > > > > > Tl;dr, this ticket raises the point that "Oops, I'm not sure we have > > though > > > through the question of upgrade to 4.0 for KEYS indexes". And tbc, it's > > not > > > directly related to this ticket, only indirectly, but it is still > > something > > > we need to figure out. And I'd say, before 4.0-alpha. But I'm happy to > > > create a separate ticket specific to that question if that helps. > > > > > > > > > Ekaterina > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> It was moved to alpha following the lifecycle document and the latest > > >> discussion on the ML. Sylvain made a review yesterday. To me the > biggest > > >> question is about the indexing. (Posted questions on the ticket > itself, > > >> waiting for opinion and agreement) For the rest of the ticket I > support > > >> Sylvain that it is primarily removal of dead code. > > >> > > >> My understanding is either it lands in alpha before the big testing in > > >> beta or it is delayed for v.5 > > >> > > >> Ekaterina > > >> > > >> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 12:59, Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Where did we land on inclusion of this ticket in 4.0? Since it's now > > >>> flagged as blocking beta rel, I am now very interested in this > > question. > > >>> > > >>> :) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 7:52 PM Jordan West <jorda...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 1:23 PM Joshua McKenzie < > jmcken...@apache.org > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Maybe. Do we just time box, say we're going to cut an RC and give > it > > 4 > > >>>>> weeks, if nothing awful surfaces we GA? > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> I've seen that work well in the past on other projects. I agree with > > the > > >>>> notion that RCs are real candidates for release if no one finds > issues > > >>> with > > >>>> them. Ideally we would have as little RCs as possible and have more > > >>>> alphas/betas. > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:12 PM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com > > > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Absolutely my understanding. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2020, 2:49 PM Jeremiah D Jordan < > > >>>>> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> A clear point to cut RC's doesn't surface from the above for me. > > >>>>>>> Releasing > > >>>>>>>> an RC before broad verification seems wrong, and cutting an RC > > >>>> after > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> 4 > > >>>>>>>> points above may as well be GA because it's all known scope. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Isn’t the whole point of an RC is that it could be the GA? It is > > >>> a > > >>>>>>> “release candidate”, meaning if no one finds any issues with it, > > >>> that > > >>>>> can > > >>>>>>> them become the release? So that seems like exactly the right > > >>> time > > >>>> to > > >>>>>> make > > >>>>>>> RC releases? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On May 27, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Joshua McKenzie < > > >>> jmcken...@apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I think we're all on the same page here; I was focusing more on > > >>> the > > >>>>>>> release > > >>>>>>>> lifecycles and sequencing than the entire version cycle. Good to > > >>>>>> broaden > > >>>>>>>> scope I think. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> One thing we're not considering is the separation of API changes > > >>>> from > > >>>>>>> major > > >>>>>>>> changes and how that intersects with release milestones. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Meaning: > > >>>>>>>> 1. alpha phase > > >>>>>>>> 2. Milestone: API freeze (all API changes pushed to next major) > > >>>>>>>> 3. beta phase > > >>>>>>>> 4. Verification phase (all major disruptive pushed to next > > >>> major) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> A clear point to cut RC's doesn't surface from the above for me. > > >>>>>>> Releasing > > >>>>>>>> an RC before broad verification seems wrong, and cutting an RC > > >>>> after > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> 4 > > >>>>>>>> points above may as well be GA because it's all known scope. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thoughts? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:28 PM Scott Andreas < > > >>>> sc...@paradoxica.net> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> That makes sense to me, yep. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> My hope and expectation is that the time required for > > >>>> "verification > > >>>>>>> work" > > >>>>>>>>> will shrink dramatically in the not too distant future - > > >>> ideally > > >>>> to > > >>>>> a > > >>>>>>>>> period of less than a month. In this world, the cost of missing > > >>>> one > > >>>>>>> train > > >>>>>>>>> is reduced to catching the next one. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> One of the main goals in shifting focus from "testing" and > > >>> "test > > >>>>>> plans" > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> "test engineering" is automating as many aspects of release > > >>>>>>> qualification > > >>>>>>>>> as possible, with an asymptotic ideal as a function of compute > > >>>>>> capacity > > >>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>> time. While such automation will never be complete (it's likely > > >>>> that > > >>>>>>>>> development of new features will/must include qualification > > >>> infra > > >>>>>>> changes > > >>>>>>>>> to exercise them), if we're able to apply the same rigor to > > >>> major > > >>>>>>> releases > > >>>>>>>>> as we are to patchlevel builds with little incremental effort, > > >>> I'd > > >>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>> thrilled. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> This is mostly a way of saying: > > >>>>>>>>> – I like the cadence/sequencing Benedict proposes below. > > >>>>>>>>> – I think improvements in test engineering can reduce/eliminate > > >>>>>>>>> invalidation and may increase the scope of what can be a > > >>> candidate > > >>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>> merge on a given branch > > >>>>>>>>> – And if not, the cost of missing the train is lower because > > >>> we'll > > >>>>> be > > >>>>>>> able > > >>>>>>>>> to deliver major releases more often. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Scott > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>> From: Jeremiah D Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 11:54 AM > > >>>>>>>>> To: Cassandra DEV > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CASSANDRA-13994 > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> +1 strongly agree. If we aren’t going to let something go into > > >>>>> 4.0.0 > > >>>>>>>>> because it would "invalidate testing” then we can not let such > > >>> a > > >>>>> thing > > >>>>>>> go > > >>>>>>>>> into 4.0.1 unless we plan to re-do said testing for the patch > > >>>>> release. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On May 27, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Benedict Elliott Smith < > > >>>>>>> bened...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm being told this still isn't clear, so let me try in a > > >>>>>> bullet-point > > >>>>>>>>> timeline: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> * 4.0 Beta > > >>>>>>>>>> * 4.0 Verification Work > > >>>>>>>>>> * [Merge Window] > > >>>>>>>>>> * 4.0 GA > > >>>>>>>>>> * 4.0 Minor Releases > > >>>>>>>>>> * ... > > >>>>>>>>>> * 5.0 Dev > > >>>>>>>>>> * ... > > >>>>>>>>>> * 5.0 Verification Work > > >>>>>>>>>> * GA 5.0 > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I think that anything that is prohibited from "[Merge Window]" > > >>>>>> because > > >>>>>>>>> it invalidates "4.0 Verification Work" must also be prohibited > > >>>> until > > >>>>>>> "5.0 > > >>>>>>>>> Dev" because the next equivalent work that can now validate it > > >>>>> occurs > > >>>>>>> only > > >>>>>>>>> at "5.0 Verification Work" > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2020, 19:05, "Benedict Elliott Smith" < > > >>>>> bened...@apache.org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I communicated my point very well. I mean > > >>> to > > >>>> say > > >>>>>>>>> that if the reason we are prohibiting a patch to land > > >>> post-beta is > > >>>>>>> because > > >>>>>>>>> it invalidates work we only perform pre-ga, then it probably > > >>>> should > > >>>>>> not > > >>>>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>> permitted to land post-ga either, since it must also invalidate > > >>>> the > > >>>>>> same > > >>>>>>>>> work? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> That is to say, if we're comfortable with work landing > > >>> post-ga > > >>>>>>>>> because we believe it to be safe to release without our > > >>>>>>> pre-major-release > > >>>>>>>>> verification, we should be comfortable with it landing at any > > >>> time > > >>>>>>> pre-ga > > >>>>>>>>> too. Anything else seems inconsistent to me, and we should > > >>>> examine > > >>>>>> what > > >>>>>>>>> assumptions we're making that permit this inconsistency to > > >>> arise. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On 27/05/2020, 18:49, "Joshua McKenzie" < > > >>> jmcken...@apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> because it invalidates our pre-release verification, then it > > >>>>> should > > >>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>>>> land > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> until we next perform pre-release verification > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> At least for me there's a little softness around our > > >>>>> collective > > >>>>>>>>> alignment > > >>>>>>>>>> on when pre-release verification takes place. If it's > > >>>> between > > >>>>>>>>> alpha-1 and > > >>>>>>>>>> ga we don't want changes that would invalidate those > > >>>> changes > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> land during > > >>>>>>>>>> that time frame. Different for beta-1 to ga. We also > > >>> risk > > >>>>>>>>> invalidating > > >>>>>>>>>> testing if we do any of that testing before wherever > > >>> that > > >>>>>> cutoff > > >>>>>>>>> is, and a > > >>>>>>>>>> lack of clarity on that cutoff further muddies those > > >>>> waters. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> My very loosely held perspective is that beta-1 to ga is > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> window in > > >>>>>>>>>> which we apply the "don't do things that will invalidate > > >>>>>>>>> verification", and > > >>>>>>>>>> we plan to do that verification during the beta phase. I > > >>>>>> *think* > > >>>>>>>>> this is > > >>>>>>>>>> consistent w/the current framing of the lifecycle doc. > > >>> That > > >>>>>> being > > >>>>>>>>> said, I > > >>>>>>>>>> don't have strong religion on this so if we collectively > > >>>> want > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> call it > > >>>>>>>>>> "don't majorly disrupt from alpha-1 to ga", we can > > >>>> formalize > > >>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>> in the > > >>>>>>>>>> docs and go ahead and triage current open scope for 4.0 > > >>> and > > >>>>>> move > > >>>>>>>>> things out. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:59 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova < > > >>>>>>>>>> ekaterina.dimitr...@datastax.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all for your input. > > >>>>>>>>>>> I think an important topic is again to revise the lifecycle > > >>> and > > >>>>>> ensure > > >>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>> really have the vision on what is left until beta. I will > > >>> start > > >>>> a > > >>>>>>>>> separate > > >>>>>>>>>>> thread on the flaky tests situation soon. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> For this particular ticket I see a couple of things: > > >>>>>>>>>>> - There are a lot of deletions of already not used code > > >>>>>>>>>>> - I implemented it still in alpha as per our agreement that > > >>> this > > >>>>>> will > > >>>>>>>>> give > > >>>>>>>>>>> us enough time for testing. Probably Dinesh as a reviewer can > > >>>> give > > >>>>>>> some > > >>>>>>>>>>> valuable feedback/opinion on the patch. > > >>>>>>>>>>> - It definitely touches around important places but the > > >>>> important > > >>>>>>> thing > > >>>>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>> to see how exactly it touches, I think > > >>>>>>>>>>> - Considering it for alpha before the major testing in beta > > >>>> sounds > > >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable to me but I guess it also depends on people > > >>>>> availability > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> review it in detail and the exact test plans afterwards > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 7:14, Benedict Elliott Smith < > > >>>>>>>>> bened...@apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think our "pre-beta" criteria should also be our "not in a > > >>>>> major" > > >>>>>>>>>>>> criteria. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If work is prohibited because it invalidates our pre-release > > >>>>>>>>>>> verification, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> then it should not land until we next perform pre-release > > >>>>>>> verification, > > >>>>>>>>>>>> which only currently happens once per major. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> This could mean either landing less in a major, or > > >>> permitting > > >>>>> more > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>>> beta > > >>>>>>>>>>>> etc. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/05/2020, 19:24, "Joshua McKenzie" < > > >>> jmcken...@apache.org > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think an interesting question that informs when to stop > > >>>>>> accepting > > >>>>>>>>>>>> specific changes in a release is when we expect any > > >>> extensive > > >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-release > > >>>>>>>>>>>> testing to take place. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If we go by our release lifecycle, gutting deprecated code > > >>>>> seems > > >>>>>>>>>>>> compatible > > >>>>>>>>>>>> w/Alpha but I wouldn't endorse merging it into Beta: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle > > >>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Since almost all of the 40_quality_testing epic stuff is > > >>> also > > >>>>>> beta > > >>>>>>>>>>>> phase > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and hasn't really taken off yet, it also seems like there > > >>>> will > > >>>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>>> extensive > > >>>>>>>>>>>> testing after this phase transition. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> All that being said, I'd advocate for marking FixVer 4.x > > >>> to > > >>>>>>> indicate > > >>>>>>>>>>>> optionality and disallow merge of tickets like this after > > >>>> we're > > >>>>>>> done > > >>>>>>>>>>>> w/alpha phase in keeping w/our lifecycle doc in general. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make sense? Should we consider revisiting and > > >>>>> revising > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> lifecycle doc re: larger deprecation / changes and cycle > > >>>>> stages? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:53 PM Oleksandr Petrov < > > >>>>>>>>>>>> oleksandr.pet...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Would you block the release over this ticket? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would definitely not block the release on this ticket. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Would you prioritize this ticket over testing? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Same here, I would prioritise testing. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Does fixing this ticket make 4.0 a more stable release? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to give some context: I wrote that in August 2018. > > >>>>> While > > >>>>>> I > > >>>>>>>>>>>> still > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> believe it is important to get rid of this code, I'm > > >>>> disinclined > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> merge > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it into 4.0. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that the patch is rather big (421 additions and 1,480 > > >>>>>>>>>>>> deletions) and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> touches many important places, including parser, I would be > > >>>>>>>>>>> extremely > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> cautious to merge it that late in release cycle. It would > > >>> be > > >>>>> great > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to also > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear arguments that would justify the risk. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for starting this discussion, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Alex > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 5:20 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova < > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ekaterina.dimitr...@datastax.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following the ticket review sent on 12th May I wanted to > > >>>> bring > > >>>>> up > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-13994: > > >>>> Remove > > >>>>>>>>>>>> COMPACT > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> STORAGE internals before 4.0 release. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is already under review by Dinesh Joshi and Alex > > >>> Petrov. > > >>>>> Not a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocker but already under review. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below are my responses to the questions brought up. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Would you block the release over this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ticket? - probably not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Would you prioritize this ticket over testing? - > > >>> already > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented but if there are some big changes needed after > > >>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> review, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt it we will want to prioritize over the testing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Does fixing > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this ticket make 4.0 a more stable release? - I will just > > >>>> cite > > >>>>>>>>>>> Alex > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petrov who reported this Jira and I think the rest of us > > >>>> would > > >>>>>>>>>>>> agree > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with him here. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I would say it's quite important to clean up compact > > >>> storage > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internals in 4.0 before the release. It should have no > > >>>> visible > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> side-effects, but it'd be very good to have as it > > >>> simplifies > > >>>>>>>>>>>> multiple > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> code paths." > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ekaterina Dimitrova > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e. ekaterina.dimitr...@datastax.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> w. www.datastax.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> alex p > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >>> dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >>> dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >>> dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >>> dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >>> dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > >