+1 ----------------- Aaron Morton New Zealand @aaronmorton
CEO Apache Cassandra Consulting http://www.thelastpickle.com On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Benedict Elliott Smith <bened...@apache.org> wrote: > The purpose of this document is to define only how the project makes > decisions, and it lists "tenets" of conduct only as a preamble for > interpreting the rules on decision-making. The authors' intent was to lean > on this to minimise the rigidity and prescriptiveness in the formulation of > the rules (so that we could e.g. use "reasonable" repeatedly, instead of > specifying precise expectations), in part because this is our first attempt > to codify such rules, and in part because rigidity can cause unnecessary > friction to a project that mostly runs smoothly. > > The document provides an avenue for resolving disputes in decision-making > when these assumptions on behaviour breakdown. However its scope definitely > isn't, at least in my opinion, addressing misbehaviour by individuals (i.e. > one of the serious breaches listed in part 5 of the Apache CoC), which it > seems to me you are addressing here? > > Since we reference the ASF CoC, and the ASF provides its own guide for > handling CoC complaints (including within projects), that applies to that > very CoC (and which you referenced), it's unclear to me what you're looking > for. Are you looking for a more project-specific CoC with different > guidelines for reporting? This is something you would be welcome to > undertake, and seek consensus for. > > > > > On 25/06/2020, 02:38, "Dinesh Joshi" <djo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:43 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> 1. How/Who/Where are we planning to deal with Code of Conduct > violations? I assume this should be private@ but the document does not > call it out as such. We should call it out explicitly as part of the PMC > responsibilities. We should also clarify how and where are CoC violations > against PMC members reported and handled? Should they go to ASF? > > > > I think if we assume good intent, this will be a non-issue. People > > may make mistakes, but I try to have faith they will realize them and > > act accordingly when told so without any need to escalate. > > We need to spell out in the document how and where the CoC violations > are reported irrespective of the role of the person in the community. This > is a critical point to address. ASF spells this out very clearly[1]. We > should have a similar statement in the Project Governance document, > otherwise it feels incomplete to me. > > Dinesh > > [1] > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html#reporting-guidelines > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
