So, if it helps matters: I am explicitly -1 the prior version of this work due 
to the technical concerns expressed here and on the ticket.  So we either need 
to revert that patch or incorporate 15299.

On 16/06/2020, 21:48, "Mick Semb Wever" <m...@apache.org> wrote:

    >
    > 2) Alternatively, it's been 3 years, 4 months, 13 days since the release 
of
    > 3.10.0 (the last time we added new features to the DB)
    >


    We did tick-tock, pushing feature releases too quickly, and without
    supporting them for long enough to get stable. And then we've done "a la no
    feature releases" for over 3 years. It feels like the bar went from too low
    to too high.

    I understand the importance of CASSANDRA-15299. But it hasn't had any
    comments in 12 twelve days, and in this stage of the feature freeze, with
    so few alpha bugs remaining, that's a long time. Sam, can you speak to its
    eta?



    > 4) If we plan on releasing 4.1 six months after the release of 4.0 (i.e.
    > calender scope vs. feature scope - not yet agreed upon but an option),



    I like this. I think it's worth appreciating the different perspectives of
    this community: those involved with private clusters that don't rely on
    official releases, versus those involved with the public and other people's
    clusters. The latter group needs those official releases much more, but
    this also ties into putting those users more in focus and figuring out
    where the bar best sits. This isn't meant to divide, we all care and voice
    for the user, but just to utilise the different strengths brought to the
    table.


    > If we want 4.0.0 out faster, the biggest gains would be to get the test
    plans written up and get more people working on automated testing.


    Yes, 110%.  Though, as long as this continues to improve, as it has, does
    it need to be a blocker on 4.0?



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