I missed the end of Josh's email that suggested engaging here and the doc
doesn't allow comments anyways so some more questions / thoughts here:

- Regarding the PMC roll call, is there any definition of "active on the
project and want to participate"?

- Will the PMC roll call apply to the PMC itself? That was my original read
of it but looking closer, its an email to dev@.

- 24 hour periods seem a little short, especially on the weekends

- The bar regarding code review: I am generally +1 on requiring more eyes
on code review. Two areas that I think could use clarification: for
low-risk patches like test fixes, etc it may be too strong and for high
risk patches the caveat that the author can be a reviewer if also a
committer is too weak.

I'll start with those 4 to limit the potential branching of this thread.

Jordan


On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:06 PM Jordan West <jw...@apache.org> wrote:

> Glad to see the PMC has been discussing these topics and is making efforts
> towards improving on the status quo. Thanks for sharing the draft. I'll
> leave more detailed questions/comments on the doc itself but as a whole its
> encouraging to see the PMC rely more heavily on the community and make an
> effort to keep its view of active participants current.
>
> Jordan
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:54 AM Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello project!
>>
>> The pmc has been discussing how we make decisions as a pmc, how we make
>> decisions as a project of committers and contributors, what decisions are
>> made where, and how those decisions are ratified and by whom. We came to
>> the conclusion that there's value in having a more formal (though
>> lightweight) structure around these topics as well as start to enumerate
>> some expectations on how we interact with each other on the project as it
>> matures.
>>
>> A link to the current draft of the governance doc is here:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wOrJBkgudY2BxEVtubq9IbiFFC3d3efJSj9OIrGcqQ8/edit#
>>
>> The doc is only 2 pages long; if you're interested in engaging in a
>> discussion about how we evolve and collaborate as a project, please take
>> some time to read through the doc, think through things, and engage on
>> this
>> thread here.
>>
>> Thanks everyone, and looking forward to a great discussion!
>>
>> ~Josh McKenzie
>>
>

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