There it is.  I knew it would show up eventually.

On 04/04/2020, 06:26, "bened...@apache.org" <pub...@belliottsmith.com> wrote:

    > scope creep.
    
    I think it is unfair to label this scope creep; it would have to be newly 
considered for 4.0 for it to fall under that umbrella.
    
    I don't personally mind if it lands, but this was discussed at length on 
multiple occasions over the past year, and only stalled because of a 
combination of lack of etiquette, and a lack of leadership from e.g. PMC in 
resolving various political questions over the course of events.
    
    I also struggle to see how this would invalidate testing in any significant 
way?  It doesn't modify any existing behaviour.
    
    ________________________________
    From: Joshua McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
    Sent: 01 April 2020 19:24
    To: dev@cassandra.apache.org <dev@cassandra.apache.org>
    Subject: Re: server side describe
    
    This looks like a feature that'd potentially invalidate some testing that's
    been done and we've been feature frozen for over a year and a half. Also:
    scope creep.
    
    My PoV is we hold off. If we get into a cadence of more frequent releases
    we'll have it soon enough.
    
    On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:03 PM <e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    
    > Hi,
    > Normally I ping the person on the ticket or in Slack to ask him/her for
    > status update and whether I can help. Then probably he/she gives me a
    > direction.
    > If I can’t find the person anymore, I just use my best judgement and
    > coordinate with people who might know better than me.
    > For now this strategy worked for me personally.
    > Hope this helps
    > Ekaterina
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    > > On 1 Apr 2020, at 14:27, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hey folks,
    > >
    > > I was looking through our open JIRAs and realized we hadn't merged in
    > > server side describe calls yet.  The ticket died off a ways ago, and I
    > > pinged Chris about it yesterday.  He's got a lot of his plate and won't
    > be
    > > able to work on it anytime soon.  I still think we should include this 
in
    > > 4.0.
    > >
    > > From a technical standpoint, It doesn't say much on the ticket after
    > Robert
    > > tossed an alternative patch out there.  I don't mind reviewing and
    > merging
    > > either of them, it sounded like both are pretty close to done and I 
think
    > > from the perspective of updating drivers for 4.0 this will save quite a
    > bit
    > > of time since driver maintainers won't have to add new CQL generation 
for
    > > the various new options that have recently appeared.
    > >
    > > Questions:
    > >
    > > * Does anyone have an objection to getting this into 4.0? The patches
    > > aren't too huge, I think they're low risk, and also fairly high reward.
    > > * I don't have an opinion (yet) on Robert's patch vs Chris's, with 
regard
    > > to which is preferable.
    > > * Since soon after Robert put up his PR he hasn't been around, at least
    > as
    > > far as I've seen.  How have we dealt with abandoned patches before?  If
    > > we're going to add this in the patch will need some cleanup.  Is it
    > > reasonable to continue someone else's work when they've disappeared?
    > >
    > > Jon
    >
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