Hi Michael,

What you and Jon said makes sense.

You have addressed a follow up concern I had about making sure the site was
updated if we go ahead with making 2.1 EOL. I'm happy to help with site
changes if needed.

Cheers,
Anthony

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 11:31, Michael Shuler <mich...@pbandjelly.org> wrote:

> My first couple sentences in the vote email were intended as a
> statement, based on a lack of concerns voiced on EOL of 2.1.
>
> I made a request for comment on EOL of 2.1 series a month ago, in
> "Subject: EOL 2.1 series?":
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/87ee2e3d13ea96744545ed8612496a93f8235747c4f60d0084b37bae@%3Cdev.cassandra.apache.org%3E
>
> Yes, I'm aware our download page states we support 2.1 until 4.0, but we
> do not really do so.
>
> The reality is that developers have been actively ignoring the branch,
> even when suggested to commit to the 2.1 branch. I can go dig up IRC
> logs and commits, but I really don't feel like it adds any value to the
> conversation. As Jonathan Haddad says, let's just be honest with users
> about what has already been happening independently.
>
> To continue stating we actively support 2.1 until 4.0 and actually
> follow through, the project should audit fixed bugs in 2.2+ and see if
> they still exist in 2.1, unfixed. I imagine there are a few. I know for
> sure of one that was not committed. Alternatively, we sunset the branch,
> make that change on the download page, and move on. I don't think it's
> right to continue telling users we are doing something, if we aren't and
> haven't been.
>
> Michael
>
> On 2/3/19 5:24 PM, Anthony Grasso wrote:
> > +1 non-binding, for the release of 2.1.21
> >
> > Regarding EOL of 2.1.x, did we announce in the past that 2.1.21 would be
> > the final release?
> >
> > According to the download <http://cassandra.apache.org/download/> page
> 2.1
> > is meant to be supported with critical fixes only until 4.0 is released.
> I
> > suspect that people may be relying on this, as I have seen a number 2.1.x
> > clusters still in production use.
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 07:09, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think having the discussion around EOL is pretty important, in order
> to
> >> set the right expectations for the community.
> >>
> >> Looking at the commits for 2.1, there's hardly any activity going on,
> >> meaning it's effectively been EOL'ed for a long time now.  I think it's
> >> better that we be honest with folks about it.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 9:34 AM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 on the release of 2.1.21 (let's focus on that in the spirit of
> >>> these other votes we have up right now).
> >>>
> >>> I don't feel the need to be absolutist about something being EOL.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 1:47 AM Stefan Podkowinski <s...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What are we voting on here? Releasing the 2.1.21 candidate, or that
> 2.1
> >>>> would become EOL? Please let's have separate votes on that, if you
> want
> >>>> to propose putting 2.1 EOL (which I'm strongly -1).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03.02.19 01:32, Michael Shuler wrote:
> >>>>> *EOL* release for the 2.1 series. There will be no new releases from
> >>> the
> >>>>> 'cassandra-2.1' branch after this release.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I propose the following artifacts for release as 2.1.21.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sha1: 9bb75358dfdf1b9824f9a454e70ee2c02bc64a45
> >>>>> Git:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/tags/2.1.21-tentative
> >>>>> Artifacts:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1173/org/apache/cassandra/apache-cassandra/2.1.21/
> >>>>> Staging repository:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecassandra-1173/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Debian and RPM packages are available here:
> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~mshuler
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The vote will be open for 72 hours (longer if needed).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]: CHANGES.txt:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/2.1.21-tentative
> >>>>> [2]: NEWS.txt:
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cassandra.git;a=blob_plain;f=CHANGES.txt;hb=refs/tags/2.1.21-tentative
> >>>>>
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> >>
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