+1 for publishing official snapshot artifacts for 4.0 and even other
branches.

We're publishing snapshot artifacts to our internal artifactory. One minor
bug we found is: currently build.xml won't publish any snapshot artifact:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-12704

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:35 PM Dinesh Joshi
<dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> I favor versioned nightlies for testing so everyone is using the exact
> binary distribution.
>
> As far as actually building the packages go, I would prefer a Docker based
> solution like Jon mentioned. It provides a controlled, reproducible, clean
> room environment. Ideally the build script should ensure that the git
> branch is clean and that there aren't any local changes if the packages are
> being published to maven.
>
> Does anyone see a need to publish the git branch metadata in the build
> like the git-sha, branch and repo url? I am not sure if this is already
> captured somewhere. Its useful to trace a build's provenance.
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Sep 20, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure - I'm not disagreeing with you that pre-built packages would be nice
> > to have.  That said, if someone's gone through the trouble of building an
> > entire testing infrastructure and has hundreds of machines available,
> > running `docker-compose up build-deb` is likely not a major issue.  If
> I'm
> > trying to decide between solving the 2 problems I'd prefer to make builds
> > easier as very few people actually know how to do it.  I'm also biased
> > because I'm working on a tool that does _exactly_ that (build arbitrary
> C*
> > debs and deploy them to AWS for perf testing with tlp-stress which we've
> > already open sourced https://github.com/thelastpickle/tlp-stress).
> >
> > I'll building it for internal TLP use but there's not much TLP specific
> > stuff, we'll be open sourcing it as soon as we can.
> >
> > TL;DR: we need both things
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:12 PM Scott Andreas <sc...@paradoxica.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Mick – Got it, thanks and sorry to have misunderstood. No fault in your
> >> writing at all; that was my misreading.
> >>
> >> Agreed with you and Kurt; I can’t think of a pressing need or immediate
> >> use for the Maven artifacts. As you mentioned, all of the examples I’d
> >> listed require binary artifacts only.
> >>
> >> Re: Jon’s question:
> >>> It seems to me that improving / simplifying the process of building the
> >> packages might solve this problem better.
> >>
> >> Agreed that making builds easy is important, and that manually-applied
> >> patches were involved in a couple cases I’d cited. My main motivation is
> >> toward making it easier for developers who’d like to produce
> >> fully-automated test pipelines to do so using common artifacts, rather
> than
> >> each replicating the build/packaging step for tarball artifacts
> themselves.
> >>
> >> Publishing binary artifacts in a common location would enable developers
> >> to configure testing and benchmarking pipelines to pick up those
> artifacts
> >> on a daily basis without intervention. In the case of a build landing
> DOA
> >> due to an issue with a commit, it’d be enough for zero-touch automation
> to
> >> pick up a new build with the fix the following day and run an extended
> >> suite across a large number of machines and publish results, for
> example.
> >>
> >>
> >> On September 19, 2018 at 8:17:05 PM, kurt greaves (k...@instaclustr.com
> >> <mailto:k...@instaclustr.com>) wrote:
> >>
> >> It's pretty much only third party plugins. I need it for the LDAP
> >> authenticator, and StratIO's lucene plugin will also need it. I know
> there
> >> are users out there with their own custom plugins that would benefit
> from
> >> it as well (and various other open source projects). It would make it
> >> easier, however it certainly is feasible for these devs to just build
> the
> >> jars themselves (and I've done this so far). If it's going to be easy I
> >> think there's value in generating and hosting nightly jars, but if it's
> >> difficult I can just write some docs for DIY.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 12:20, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry about the terrible english in my last email.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On the target audience:
> >>>>
> >>>> [snip]
> >>>> For developers building automation around testing and
> >>>> validation, it’d be great to have a common build to work from rather
> >>>> than each developer producing these builds themselves.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sure. My question was only in context of maven artefacts.
> >>> It seems to me all the use-cases you highlight would be for the binary
> >>> artefacts.
> >>>
> >>> If that's the case we don't need to worry about publishing snapshots
> >> maven
> >>> artefacts, and can just focus on uploading nightly builds to
> >>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cassandra/
> >>>
> >>> Or is there a use-case I'm missing that needs the maven artefacts?
> >>>
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> >
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