I think Michael is right. It would be impossible to make everyone follow such a fast release scheme, and supporting it will be pressured onto the various distributions, M$ and Apple. On the other hand https://adoptopenjdk.net has already done a lot of the work and it's already rumoured they may take up backporting of security/bug fixes. I'd fully expect a lot of users to collaborate around this (or similar), and there's no reason we couldn't do our part to contribute.
On Fri., 23 Mar. 2018, 09:37 Gerald Henriksen, <ghenr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:04:16 -0500, you wrote: > > >Is OpenJDK really not addressing this at all? Is that because OpenJDK is > >beholden to Oracle somehow? > > I suspect it is more a case of OpenJDK (as in the entitites other than > Oracle that are members) haven't historically been involved in the > providing of JRE/JDK to the public. Oracle (previously Sun) handled > that entirely and so there is no group outside of Oracle prepared (at > least at this point in time) to do anything. > > >There is no looming deadline on this, is there? > > Less than a year. Java 8 is currently scheduled to get dropped (as in > no more updates) in January 2019 (the actual plan is 4 months after > Java 11, so if 11 is late then that date will get changed). > > > Can we just let the dust > >settle on this in the overall ecosystem to see what happens? > > Not a lot of time to organize an alternative if too much time is spent > seeing if someone else does anything. > > I don't see Apple picking up supporting Java again on MacOS, I suppose > Microsoft might be convinced to pick up Java for Windows if they felt > it helped either Windows or Azure (on the other hand though this might > convince a lot of organizations to move to the now multi-platform > .Net). > > The question really becomes who sees it in their interest to come up > with the money to support (either through OpenJDK or an outside group) > the process of building and maintaining a free set of Java binaries. > > Unless someone steps up then the best anyone can do (at least in terms > of no-cost use of Java) is to work around where we know there will be > long term Java support, that being the Linux/BSD versions that provide > long term support through the distribution. > > If that is the case, then it might be worth someone creating an > informal group to discuss between the distributions and the software > projects that rely on Java what version of Java to support. If for > example Red Hat, Ubuntu, Debian, FreeBSD, etc. can't come to an > informal agreement to all support the same version of Java we could in > 5 years end up with Red Hat supporting X, Ubuntu X+1, Debian X-1, etc. > with the result that the software have to try and pick and choose. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > >
