Hi,
    I dont see any any update on this thread. We will go ahead and make
Dtest a blocker for cutting releasing for anything after 3.10.

Please respond if anyone has an objection to this.

Thanks,
Sankalp



On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Caveat: I'm strongly in favor of us blocking a release on a non-green test
> board of either utest or dtest.
>
>
> > put something in prod which is known to be broken in obvious ways
>
> In my experience the majority of fixes are actually shoring up low-quality
> / flaky tests or fixing tests that have been invalidated by a commit but do
> not indicate an underlying bug. Inferring "tests are failing so we know
> we're asking people to put things in prod that are broken in obvious ways"
> is hyperbolic. A more correct statement would be: "Tests are failing so we
> know we're shipping with a test that's failing" which is not helpful.
>
> Our signal to noise ratio with tests has been very poor historically; we've
> been trying to address that through aggressive triage and assigning out
> test failures however we need far more active and widespread community
> involvement if we want to truly *fix* this problem long-term.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1.  Kind of silly to put advise people to put something in prod which is
> > known to be broken in obvious ways
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:31 AM sankalp kohli <kohlisank...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >     We should not cut a releases if Dtest are not passing. I won't
> block
> > > 3.10 on this since we are just discussing this.
> > >
> > > Please provide feedback on this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sankalp
> > >
> >
>

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