This is the way our community has operated for at least the 6ish years I have 
been involved with it. The Apache project develops the database, others in the 
community develop drivers. It's the way we have always worked, I'm sorry if you 
don't like that. 

DataStax has released their driver under a license that gives you free reign to 
fork it and do with it what you please if you don't like what they are doing 
with it.  https://github.com/datastax/java-driver/blob/3.0/LICENSE

This conversation clearly isn't going anywhere so I will be bowing out of it 
now.

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Johan Edstrom <seij...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> As an Apache guy, one to another, seriously, how would you respond to that?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:33 PM, Jason Brown <jasedbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The client-server protocol is well defined in the Cassandra repo, so any one 
>> may implement a client library for any language. However, it is a far from 
>> trivial task, so not many folks build their own. Thus, already-built drivers 
>> tend to become the de facto standard, but we (the Apache Cassandra 
>> committers/PMC) do not/have not blessed any vendor's driver(s) as official.
>> 
>> As to why there is not a canonical set of drivers in the Cassandra repo, 
>> well, we've just never gotten into that game as an OSS community.
>> 
>> -Jason (not affiliated with DataStax)
>> 
>>> On Friday, June 3, 2016, Johan Edstrom <seij...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:seij...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Jeff Jirsa <jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com 
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeff.ji...@crowdstrike.com');>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/hector-client/hector 
>>> <https://github.com/hector-client/hector>
>> 
>> So - that isn’t doing CQL, Right?
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/Netflix/astyanax <https://github.com/Netflix/astyanax>
>> 
>> Upgrading to CQL?
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://doanduyhai.github.io/Achilles/ 
>>> <http://doanduyhai.github.io/Achilles/>
>> 
>> Which driver do you use?
>> 
>>> https://github.com/noorq/casser <https://github.com/noorq/casser>
>> 
>> <cassandra-driver-core.version>2.1.5</cassandra-driver-core.version>
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/impetus-opensource/Kundera 
>>> <https://github.com/impetus-opensource/Kundera>
>> 
>> <profile>
>>      <id>ds-driver</id>
>>      <activation>
>>        <activeByDefault>false</activeByDefault>
>>      </activation>
>>      <modules>
>>        <module>cassandra-core</module>
>>        <module>cassandra-ds-driver</module>
>>      </modules>
>>    </profile>
>>    <profile>
>>      <id>thrift</id>
>>      <activation>
>>        <activeByDefault>false</activeByDefault>
>>      </activation>
>>      <modules>
>>        <module>cassandra-core</module>
>>        <module>cassandra-thrift</module>
>>      </modules>
>>    </profile>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/deanhiller/playorm 
>>> <https://github.com/deanhiller/playorm>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Jeff ( Not affiliated with datastax )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6/3/16, 7:58 PM, "Johan Edstrom" <seij...@gmail.com 
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seij...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How many Java drivers could you point out?
>>>> Doesn’t it strike you slightly off that you’d not have a driver for a DB 
>>>> in the same project you found the DB?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Dave Brosius <dbros...@mebigfatguy.com 
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dbros...@mebigfatguy.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are many drivers for cassandra, supplied by various individuals and 
>>>>> groups, one of those drivers was started by people at datastax which is 
>>>>> available as an opensource project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The open source project is not open to any random person on the internet 
>>>>> to commit to (just like any open source project), so i suppose in that 
>>>>> regard there is some 'control'. But i doubt that is what you are fishing 
>>>>> for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> (not affiliated with datastax)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 06/03/2016 10:29 PM, Chris Mattmann wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m investigating something a few ASF members contacted
>>>>>> me about and pointed out, so I’m hoping you can help
>>>>>> guide me here as a community. I have heard that a company,
>>>>>> DataStax, whose marketing material mentions it as the only
>>>>>> Cassandra vendor, “controls” the Java Driver for Apache
>>>>>> Cassandra.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course, no company “controls” our projects or its code,
>>>>>> so I told the folks that mentioned it to me that I’d investigate
>>>>>> with my board hat on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’d like to hear the community’s thoughts here on this. Does
>>>>>> anyone in the community see this “controlling” behavior going
>>>>>> on? Please speak up, as I’d like to get to the bottom of it,
>>>>>> and I’ll be around on the lists, doing some homework and reading
>>>>>> up on the archives to see what’s up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for any help you can provide in rooting this out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Chris
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