On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:49 PM Sijie Guo <guosi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:22 AM Venkateswara Rao Jujjuri <
> jujj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Recently we ran into a situation where the LedgerMetadataListener never
> > returned/detected metadata change. Due to this reader had stale metadata
> > and tried to read from bookies that no longer have that ledger, hence
> > NoSuchLedgerExistsException was returned to the caller.
> >
>
> Do the bookies have entries? Or does it change ensemble to cause an empty
> fragment?
>

Replication worker migrated ledgers on to other bookies. But the client is
pointing to old set of bookies.

Those bookies respond NoSuchLedgerExistsException when talking to the empty
> fragment.
> Is that the case? I am not sure how NoSuchLedgerExistsException can be
> propagated to the client.
>

Since client is contacting old bookies, which doesn't have the ledger
anymore, it is returning NoSuchLedger.
and all 3 bookies returned the same error, hence client returned that to
user.


> Can you describe the sequence on how this happened?
>
>
> >
> > 1. I wonder if NoSuchLedgerExistsException is the right error here?
>
>
> >    - Client knows that the ledger exists in the metadata. It has valid
> >    handle. So ledger *Exists*.
> >    -  In this case it is stale metadata so a restart of client took care
> of
> >    the situation. But what if the ledger is in ZK, but missing from all
> >    bookies? This can be a durability or availability issue based on the
> >    bookies in the metadata are part of the cluster or not.
> >    - I think we need to have more sophisticated error handling here.
> >    Comments?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > 2. Having too many watches puts memory pressure on the client.
> >
> >    - How about having an option to re-read the metadata on demand w/o
> > watch?
> >
>
> +1 this has been in my todo list for a while. we should provide options to
> do this either by watches or by re-read scheduling or both.
>
>
> >       - Schedule a task to reread metadata on the first bookie failure
> with
> >       NoSuchEntry/NoSuchLedger.
> >       - If all three bookies fail, wait for the outstanding metadata read
> >       to return before failing to user.
> >       - If the metadata is read, and is different from the local copy,
> >       reattempt the read.
> >       - If metadata is not different, then fail with "some new error"
> >       DataLossException or something?
> >    - This can cause latency if the metadata is changing a lot, but may be
> >    better than constant watches? It could be a configuration option.
> >    - We could even think of having both enabled if the reader is super
> >    conservative.
> >
> >
> > Thoughts?
> > JV
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jvrao
> > ---
> > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> > you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
> >
>


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Jvrao
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you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

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