On Thu, 2017-08-24 at 11:22 -0700, Sijie Guo wrote:

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Francesco Caliumi - Diennea <
francesco.cali...@diennea.com<mailto:francesco.cali...@diennea.com>> wrote:



I'm not sure if I explained well my point. No docker hub involved, just a
tool for every developer who wants to build an image by its own. Maybe to
test the stability of a feature branch instead of master, for instance.




If we don't push to docker hub, how can this image be used for continuous
testing. The idea is to have a nightly image, so this image can be deployed
to somewhere to do integration test, jepsen test and other things.



I'm not familiar with this use case, but I think the image can be builded 
before starting integration tests, without any need of docker hub at all (but 
it adds a couple of minutes to overall test time).

This way integration tests could be executed on master and on branches as well.




Maybe it could help to well define the use case scenario and the target
user. If target user is a developer or tester that needs to test a bk
ensemble, having available only the one day delayed build of the master
branch could be limiting.








On Tue, 2017-08-22 at 14:38 +0800, Jia Zhai wrote:

Hi Sijie,
For releases version, we have no permissions to do "docker push" images
into wanted place(neither under apache <https://hub.docker.com/u/apache/>
nor  "Official <https://docs.docker.com/docker-hub/official_repos/>").

Thanks.
-Jia



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Sijie Guo 
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On Aug 21, 2017 12:56 AM, "Francesco Caliumi - Diennea" <
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wrote:

My view for these topics:

1) I'm a big fan of official docker images, so it's ok for me.

2) For latest build, both Jia and Enrico solutions are ok, but I think
Enrico's maven target one is the most flexible.
Who usually need the nightly build are developers, who do not care very
much to have an official or almost-official image, but they like the
flexibility to build the image of the commit / branch they want to test.


Having a maven target should create a workflow like this:

- do some work or git checkout {<branch> / <commit>}
- mvn clean package docker:build
- (optional: only if working with multiple versions) docker tag
<generated_image> <dev_docker_user>/bookkeeper:mytag
- (optional: only if the image should be accessibile by others devs /
machines) docker push <dev_docker_user>/bookkeeper:mytag
- test the image

On functionality side, this image will be slightly different from the
current one, because it will not need to download the package but it will
find it directly in the build dir.


Personally I'd like to have a single way to build images for nightly and
releases. It is going to be hard to maintain two solutions in long term.


On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 00:49 -0700, Sijie Guo wrote:

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 12:38 AM, Enrico Olivelli 
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Il mar 15 ago 2017, 09:16 Sijie Guo 
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On Aug 14, 2017 11:18 PM, "Enrico Olivelli" 
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Il mar 15 ago 2017, 03:29 Jia Zhai 
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scritto:



Hi Sijie,
From my view, the approach problem is whether we have permissions to
"docker push" images into wanted place.
Following the way putting images under "apache",   we seems not have
permission, While following the "Official
<https://docs.docker.com/docker-hub/official_repos/>" way, seems


neither.



Since nightly build is mainly for our development, It maybe OK to




manage




and maintain a dockerhub account by our community to hold the nightly
one(maybe also for the release images).



On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sijie Guo 
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Jia Zhai 
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wrote:









Thanks Sijie for raising these good topics up.

Regarding 1) official image, the Flink one is similar as Zookeeper






one,






which we have discussed before. If the currently approach could not




make




bookkeeper docker image official, we should go this way.






Regarding 2) nightly build,  there is already an issue
<https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/issues/289> opened.  Seems








the






issue


is where to put the nightly build images, since for both way of




official




image, there is limited access to the dockerhub, The first thought








in




my




head is to place a nightly build somewhere, such as (
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bookkeeper/), and the








current








docker
file will not changed too much, seems only some env var need








change.












currently we don't have any process to produce any nightly built


packages.



If we are planning to use dist/dev for hosting the nightly build, we




need




to figure out how to get the credentials to do that.
Because the dist/dev is a svn repo, during a release, the release




manager




uses its own credentials to commit the new packages to the svn repo.





Regarding 3), the build failure
<https://hub.docker.com/r/apache/bookkeeper/builds/
bvzft3fsnpmmj5i8jnpk3fl/>
is caused by connection(from dockerhub to gpg key server) issue. It






is




also


one reason to come out PR420 <https://github.com/apache/
bookkeeper/pull/420>,
which wanted to download local KEY to avoid gpg server connection,






But


we




agree that it is not very security.




I think there are a few drawbacks that I can see in current approach:

- building the packages and building the docker images are managed by




two




different systems.
- the `latest` image isn't really a tag pointing to the image of






latest






release; the latest is actually building from master. any changes




pushed


to


master unnecessarily trigger auto build in docker hub, even the






package






itself isn't changed.




"latest" is some kind of place holder, I thought to use it to point to


the


nightly version, seems I was mis-understanding of it.




My two cents
IMHO  latest should be v the latest stable version


Yes that's my thought as well. Then it should be just a tag for the image
of latest release. However in current approach, it keeps regenerating a
image everytime there is a change on master. This doesn't make any sense


to


me.




We have to touch the latest tag only as part of the release process.




Currently latest is not just a tag of 4.5.0. they are separate images
generated by docker auto builds.










One step back, what is the purpose of having this image? I mean an image


of


the master branch.


It can be used in a CD (continuous deployment) pipeline, you can deploy


the


image to a dockerized environment to verify if it is working or not.




Yup, so it is like the maven snapshots.
From the licensing point in that case all the constraints are relaxed, we
can really use a PMC managed repository





If you only need to have a working bookkeeper server for docker we can


use


the maven docker plugin which is well integreated with maven based
environments. The problem of where to put is is still here. Sometime ago
for a project I had just created a free account on docker hub and pushed
there the image directly from the build.
Jia already created a BookKeeper account, we could use it.
Credentials will be managed by PMC


Enrico







- building a nightly package is not trivial.

If we step back and revisit my comment in
https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/pull/197#issuecomment-317831799






,


if




we
use `docker push` approach and let jenkins build and push docker




images,


it


seems to be much easier
to address the above issues.

Thoughts?

- Sijie







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-- Enrico Olivelli



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