+1 on moving the release guide. I'd argue that everything under the
`contribute` tag other than the main page (
https://beam.apache.org/contribute/) and the link to CONTRIBUTING.md
<https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md> makes more
sense on the wiki (we can keep the section with the sidebar links just
redirecting to the wiki). I don't think it makes sense to move anything
else, but the contributing section is inherently "dev focused".

Thanks,
Danny

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 11:58 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I am reviving a discussion that began at
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/w4g8xpg4215nlq86hxbd6n3q7jfnylny when we
> started our Confluence wiki and has even been revived once before.
>
> The conclusion of that thread was basically "yes, let us separate the
> contributor-facing stuff to a different site". It also was the boot up of
> the Confluence wiki but I want to not discuss tech/hosting for this thread.
> I want to focus on the issue of having a separate user-facing website vs a
> contributor-facing website. Some things like issue priorities are
> user-and-dev facing and they require review for changes and should stay on
> the user site. I also don't want to get into those more complex cases.
>
> We are basically in a halfway state today because I didn't have enough
> volunteer time to finish everything and I did not wrangle enough help.
>
> So now I am release manager and encountering the docs more closely again.
> The release docs really blend stuff.
>
>   - The main release guide is on the website.
>  - Some steps, though, are GitHub Issues that we push along from release
> Milestone to the next one.
>  - The actual technical bits to do the steps are sometimes on the
> confluence wiki
>  - I expect I will also be touching README files in various folders of the
> repo
>
> So I just want to make some more steps, and I wanted to ask the community
> for their current thoughts. I think one big step could be to move the
> release guide itself to the dev site, which is currently the wiki.
>
> What do you think? Are there any other areas of the website that you think
> could just move to the wiki today?
>
> Kenn
>
> p.s. Some time in the past I saw an upper right corner fold (like
> https://www.istockphoto.com/illustrations/paper-corner-fold) that took
> you to the dev site that looked the same with different color scheme. That
> was fun :-)
>

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