I like that change, especially providing all the resources in one spot.
http://apache-beam-website-pull-requests.storage.googleapis.com/6912/contribute/get-help/index.html

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:13 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:

> To make it concrete and not just critique, I put together
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/6912 for consideration.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:48 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can accept (but never love) a sidebar that isn't a site map.
>> Personally, I find them disorienting and they lower my confidence in the
>> quality and authoritativeness of the content. But I understand I am just
>> one person, composed of idiosyncracies.
>>
>> I actually think that the contents of Community > Contact Us are not
>> contextualized for an incoming contributor. How about "Contribute > Get
>> Help": a page more focused on contributors, clarifying the role of
>> different communication channels and the PMC/Committers roster for getting
>> a change build and incorporated. It could also subsume the off-site FAQ
>> link.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:16 AM Scott Wegner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In the case of "Contact Us", the redundancy is deliberate-- we received
>>> feedback on the Contribution Guide that the content is heavy and it wasn't
>>> obvious how to find help. We wanted the "Contact Us" link as visible as
>>> possible, so the proposed solution was to have it in both sidebars.
>>>
>>> In my opinion I don't think a strict content hierarchy is necessary in
>>> the sidebar, and we should instead focus on providing the right context.
>>> We'll hit additional cases like this as more content moves out to the wiki.
>>>
>>> Some additional details on the original feedback is in JIRA:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-5735
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:02 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And the site map structure actually has a couple more issues:
>>>>
>>>>  - Contribute > Roadmap is the same as top-level Roadmap
>>>>  - Contribute > Contact Us is the same as Community > Contact Us.
>>>>  - Contribute > PMC and Committers is the same as Community > Team
>>>>  - Contribute > Policies > * is separate from Community > Policies, for
>>>> good reasons but it looks weird
>>>>
>>>> I don't mean this only as a critique of the change, but also of the
>>>> prior structure, which seemingly didn't work well.
>>>>
>>>> Sam/Thomas/Scott also - was it the case that while working through
>>>> contributing it was unclear where these resources could be found? Is there
>>>> a better division here? I think previously the Contribute and Community
>>>> sections were one and the same, but we split them to put more heavyweight
>>>> stuff under Contribute.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Got feedback? tinyurl.com/swegner-feedback
>>>
>>

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