Hi Kenneth,

thanks for the clarification. I was not aware of bundles. Now it makes sense.


Vaclav

________________________________
From: Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 4:57:34 PM
To: dev
Subject: Re: triggers in direct runner

Hi Vaclav,

Slightly stale but still maybe a good reference is 
https://s.apache.org/beam-triggers.

Triggers are per key and window, and they give the runner permission to fire 
but do not require it. The runner can thus amortize the cost of output. The 
bundle is the unit of commit in Beam so firing sub-bundle is wasted.

Also relevant is https://s.apache.org/beam-sink-triggers. It emphasizes the 
other point: triggering is about completeness, latency, and cost. It is 
(mostly) a bug that triggering affects the observable elements.

Kenn


On Thu, May 10, 2018, 06:38 Plajt, Vaclav 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Beam Devs,
I'm working on DSL-Euphoria. And I found that when GroupByKey transform is 
executed on direct runner, window triggers are evaluated element-wise 
(ReduceFnRunner#processElement) but not actually fired element-wise. They are 
fired (pane is emitted) when whole batch of elements is processed 
(ReduceFnRunner#processElements).

I also suspects that elements are already grouped by key when they reach 
ReduceFnRunner#processElements so triggers are fired only once per whole group.

I'm confused by this behavior since Beam Programming guide has examples with 
element-wise triggerning (see paragraph 8.4.1.1.).

Is this a wanted behavior? And does every Beam Runner do it the same 
(portability)? Or do I miss something?

Any kind of help or guidance is appreciated.
Thank you.
Vaclav Plajt


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