The scheduler API should know when jobs are locked, though, right? That information could be made available to the UI.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bill Farner <wfar...@apache.org> wrote: > I think the current API primitives used for updates (kill, add) will > continue to make sense, so a client could implement updates that way. > However, these will not appear as updates to the scheduler. > > -=Bill > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Maxim Khutornenko <ma...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Retaining client update algorithm would require extra work on the > scheduler > > side to satisfy visibility requirements Bill outlined above, which may > not > > worth the effort. That would also create ground for inconsistent update > > expectations and experience. > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Brian Wickman <wick...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > Will the API for client-side updates still exist? Will the client > > continue > > > to have its own implementation of 'update' (or perhaps an 'update > > --local' > > > flag?) The reason I ask is whether customers should continue to have > the > > > flexbility to implement their own update algorithms (e.g. 1% -> 10% -> > > 25% > > > -> 25% -> 25% -> rest.) > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Bill Farner <wfar...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Rolling updates of services is a crucial feature in Aurora. As such, > we > > > > want to take great care when changing its behavior. Today, Aurora > > > operates > > > > by delegating this functionality to the client (or any API client, > for > > > that > > > > matter). While this has provided a nice abstraction, it turns out > there > > > are > > > > some shortcomings with this approach: > > > > > > > > 1. Visibility: since the scheduler does not know about updates, it > > > cannot > > > > display useful information about an in-progress update > > > > 2. Visibility: for two users to diagnose a failed update, they must > > be > > > at > > > > the same terminal, or copy/paste terminal output > > > > 3. Usability: the scheduler has no means to show information about > > how > > > an > > > > application's packages or configuration changed over time > > > > 4. Usability: update orchestration in the client means a lost > > > connection > > > > to the scheduler halts an update > > > > > > > > Some of the above issues can be addressed by moving update > > orchestration > > > to > > > > a service external to the scheduler. At first glance, this approach > is > > > > attractive, as there is a firm separation of concerns. However, there > > > are a > > > > few pitfalls with this approach: > > > > > > > > 1. Usability: setup and maintenance of an aurora cluster becomes > even > > > > more complicated (additional service + storage system) > > > > 2. Usability: the user interface becomes more complicated to stitch > > > > together, as end-users really should only have to visit one website > to > > > view > > > > job information. > > > > 3. Complexity: implementing a new production-ready service from > > scratch > > > > will take a non-trivial amount of time > > > > > > > > With these issues in mind, I propose that the scheduler take over the > > > > responsibility of application update orchestration. This will allow > us > > to > > > > solve the current design shortcomings, without the pitfalls of the > > > separate > > > > service approach. > > > > > > > > I'm interested in thoughts others have on this. Does the reasoning > seem > > > > sound? Are there things i'm missing? > > > > > > > > > > > > -=Bill > > > > > > > > > >
