Summary of IRC Meeting in #aurora at Mon May 19 18:23:13 2014:

Attendees: wickman, jfarrell, mchucarroll, wfarner, kts, dlester, mansu

- Preface
  - Action: wfarner to investigate fixing tests outside of git repo
  - Action: wickman to add a section to the contributors guide outlining 
specific reviewer escalation protocol


IRC log follows:

## Preface ##
[Mon May 19 18:24:08 2014] <kts>: so should we prioritize making all tests work 
within the source distribution tarball?
[Mon May 19 18:24:51 2014] <mchucarroll>: I think so - if I were evaluating 
mesos, the first thing I’d do is download it and trying running its tests.
[Mon May 19 18:25:32 2014] <wfarner>: +1, tests should pass in release dists
[Mon May 19 18:25:43 2014] <kts>: any volunteers to take that on?
[Mon May 19 18:26:26 2014] <mchucarroll>: If no else is willing, I’ll do it.
[Mon May 19 18:26:51 2014] <wfarner>: i can evaluate it - proximity to kts may 
make it go more swiftly
[Mon May 19 18:27:31 2014] <kts>: all right then
[Mon May 19 18:27:43 2014] <kts>: #action wfarner to investigate fixing tests 
outside of git repo
[Mon May 19 18:28:17 2014] <kts>: other than that, there didn't seem to be 
other blockers for the release candidate
[Mon May 19 18:28:35 2014] <kts>: a couple cosmetic changes (changelog, 
filenames)
[Mon May 19 18:29:11 2014] <kts>: so I'll work with wfarner to get -rc1 out
[Mon May 19 18:29:20 2014] <kts>: any other agenda items?
[Mon May 19 18:29:44 2014] <mansu>: I have a question about the apache 
infrastructure
[Mon May 19 18:30:12 2014] <mansu>: Recently the rb and email have been very 
slow and it's very annoying to use.
[Mon May 19 18:30:19 2014] <mansu>: atleast for me
[Mon May 19 18:30:23 2014] <wickman>: I'd like to get feedback on 
https://reviews.apache.org/r/21402/ or at least have kts/jfarrell unvolunteer
[Mon May 19 18:30:28 2014] <mansu>: is there something we can do about it?
[Mon May 19 18:30:29 2014] <wickman>: (python checkstyle hooks)
[Mon May 19 18:31:25 2014] <mchucarroll>: Brian, I can take a look at those if 
you’d like.
[Mon May 19 18:31:46 2014] <wfarner>: mansu: we can discuss with jfarrell.  
probably not much action we can take in this meeting
[Mon May 19 18:31:58 2014] <kts>: mansu: I imagine the asf infra folks have 
been busy with https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/mail_outage
[Mon May 19 18:32:23 2014] <wfarner>: i do know jfarrell investigated this last 
week and discovered an issue causing jenkins to crash regularly
[Mon May 19 18:32:42 2014] <wickman>: mchucarroll: thanks!  per protocol i'd 
still like to have kts/jfarrell opt out via the reviewboard.  but all feedback 
welcome.
[Mon May 19 18:33:00 2014] <kts>: wickman: just took a look
[Mon May 19 18:33:05 2014] <wickman>: kts: ty
[Mon May 19 18:33:05 2014] <mansu>: ok
[Mon May 19 18:33:19 2014] <mchucarroll>: What *is* protocol. I’ve been told, 
on several occasions, to just change the “people” line to match whoever 
actually reviewed it.
[Mon May 19 18:33:44 2014] <wickman>: mchucarroll: i was under the impression 
that the people had to explicitly unvolunteer via comment, then we can choose 
to reassign.  but perhaps i'm misstaken.
[Mon May 19 18:34:23 2014] <wfarner>: self-optout is my preference, i don't 
like the idea of removing people without giving fair notice
[Mon May 19 18:34:38 2014] <mchucarroll>: That’s why I’m asking - I thought 
that was the rule, but got corrected on several occasions; since I’m not the 
only one who’s uncertain, and we’ve got the whole gang here, we should 
clarify, and have it recorded in the meeting notes for reference.
[Mon May 19 18:35:29 2014] <wfarner>: anyone against giving 2 business day 
warning before removing a reviewer without their explicit request on the review?
[Mon May 19 18:35:41 2014] <wfarner>: barring that, anyone in favor?
[Mon May 19 18:35:54 2014] <wickman>: wfarner: sgtm
[Mon May 19 18:36:27 2014] <wickman>: wfarner: in any case, we should add this 
explicitly in the contributors guide
[Mon May 19 18:36:37 2014] <mchucarroll>: 2 business days seems a bit high? We 
should expect turnaround of a review in less than 2 business days; having to 
leave it that long after giving notice seems very slow.
[Mon May 19 18:37:48 2014] <kts>: maybe we should assign reviewers sooner? like 
maybe have a contributor field on tickets that are opened
[Mon May 19 18:37:52 2014] <wfarner>: my assumption is that complete silence 
even after being pinged (rather than lack of review bandwidth) is rare
[Mon May 19 18:38:43 2014] <kts>: I sometimes get a deluge of reviews and only 
learn about them via the people column
[Mon May 19 18:40:07 2014] <kts>: maybe a premature optimization though
[Mon May 19 18:42:45 2014] <wickman>: #action wickman to add a section to the 
contributors guide outlining specific reviewer escalation protocol
[Mon May 19 18:42:50 2014] <jfarrell>: late, but here
[Mon May 19 18:43:35 2014] <dlester>: jfarrell: welcome!
[Mon May 19 18:43:53 2014] <dlester>: Anything else to discuss?
[Mon May 19 18:44:31 2014] <kts>: looks like that's it
[Mon May 19 18:44:36 2014] <kts>: ASFBot: meeting stop


Meeting ended at Mon May 19 18:44:36 2014

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